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From: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
To: linux@horizon.com
Cc: mingo@elte.hu, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch 00/13] Syslets, "Threadlets", generic AIO support, v3
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 05:40:12 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070222.054012.71091934.davem@davemloft.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070222122721.12459.qmail@science.horizon.com>

From: linux@horizon.com
Date: 22 Feb 2007 07:27:21 -0500

> May I just say, that this is f***ing brilliant.

It's brilliant for disk I/O, not for networking for which
blocking is the norm not the exception.

So people will have to likely do something like divide their
applications into handling for I/O to files and I/O to networking.
So beautiful. :-)

Nobody has proposed anything yet which scales well and handles both
cases.

It is one reoccuring point made by Evgeniy, and he is very right
about it.

If used for networking one could easily make this new interface create
an arbitrary number of threads by just opening up that many
connections to such a server and just sitting there not reading
anything from any of the client sockets.  And this happens
non-maliciously for slow clients, whether that is due to application
blockage or the characteristics of the network path.

  reply	other threads:[~2007-02-22 13:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 277+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-02-22 12:27 linux
2007-02-22 13:40 ` David Miller [this message]
2007-02-22 23:52   ` linux
     [not found] <efa6f5910703021120ia0b8d18ne0c806eb2e73da4c@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found] ` <20070303103427.GC22557@2ka.mipt.ru>
2007-03-03 10:58   ` Ihar `Philips` Filipau
2007-03-03 11:03     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-03-03 11:51       ` Ihar `Philips` Filipau
2007-03-03 21:12     ` Ray Lee
2007-03-03 22:14       ` Ihar `Philips` Filipau
2007-03-03 23:54         ` Ray Lee
2007-03-04  9:33       ` Michael K. Edwards
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-02-27 14:15 Al Boldi
2007-02-27 14:15 Al Boldi
2007-02-27 19:22 ` Theodore Tso
2007-03-01 10:21 ` Pavel Machek
2007-02-25 19:11 Al Boldi
2007-02-25 19:10 Al Boldi
2007-02-21 21:13 Ingo Molnar
2007-02-21 22:46 ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-02-21 22:57   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-22  0:53     ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-02-22  1:33       ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-02-22  6:51       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-22  8:59         ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-02-21 23:03   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-21 23:24   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-22  0:55     ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-02-21 23:31   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-21 23:46     ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-02-22  7:40       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-22 11:31         ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-22 11:52           ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-02-22 12:39             ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-22 13:41               ` David Miller
2007-02-22 14:31                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-22 14:47                   ` David Miller
2007-02-22 15:02                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-22 15:15                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-22 15:29                       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-22 17:17                       ` David Miller
2007-02-23 11:12                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-22 20:13                     ` Davide Libenzi
2007-02-22 21:30                     ` Zach Brown
2007-02-22 14:59                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-22 21:42                   ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-02-22 14:53                 ` Avi Kivity
2007-02-22 12:59           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-22 13:32             ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-22 19:46               ` Davide Libenzi
2007-02-23 12:15                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-23 17:43                   ` Davide Libenzi
2007-02-23 18:01                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-23 20:43                       ` Davide Libenzi
2007-02-23 11:51               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-23 12:22                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-23 12:41                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-25 17:45                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-25 18:09                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-25 19:04                       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-25 19:42                         ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-25 20:38                           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-26 12:39                           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-26 14:05                             ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-26 14:15                               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-26 16:55                                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-26 20:35                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-26 22:06                                     ` Bill Huey
2007-02-27 10:09                                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-27 17:13                                     ` Pavel Machek
2007-02-27  2:18                                   ` Davide Libenzi
2007-02-27 10:13                                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-27 16:01                                       ` Davide Libenzi
2007-02-27 16:21                                         ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-27 16:58                                           ` Eric Dumazet
2007-02-27 17:06                                             ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-27 19:20                                           ` Davide Libenzi
2007-02-26 19:47                           ` Davide Libenzi
2007-02-25 23:14                         ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-02-22 14:17             ` Suparna Bhattacharya
2007-02-22 14:36               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-23 14:23                 ` Suparna Bhattacharya
2007-02-22 21:24             ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-02-23  0:30               ` Alan
2007-02-23  2:47                 ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-02-23  8:31                   ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-02-23 10:22                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-23 12:37                   ` Alan
2007-02-23 23:49                     ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-02-24  1:08                       ` Alan
2007-02-24  0:51                         ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-02-24  2:17                           ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-02-24  3:25                           ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-02-23 12:17               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-24 19:52                 ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-02-24 21:04                   ` Davide Libenzi
2007-02-24 23:01                     ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-02-25 22:44           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-02-26 13:11             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-26 17:37               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-26 18:19                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-02-26 18:38                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-26 18:56                     ` Chris Friesen
2007-02-26 19:20                       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-26 17:28             ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-26 17:57               ` Linus Torvalds
2007-02-26 18:32                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-26 19:22                   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-02-26 19:30                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-26 20:04                       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-02-27  8:09                         ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-26 19:54                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-27 10:28                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-27 11:52                     ` Theodore Tso
2007-02-27 12:11                       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-27 12:13                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-27 12:40                           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-28 16:14                         ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-01  8:18                           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-03-01  9:26                             ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-01  9:47                               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-03-01  9:54                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-01 10:59                                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-03-01 11:00                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-01 11:16                                       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-03-01 11:27                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-01 11:36                                           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-03-01 11:41                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-01 11:47                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-01 12:10                                             ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-03-01 12:43                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-01 13:01                                                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-03-01 13:11                                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-01 13:30                                                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-03-01 14:19                                                       ` Eric Dumazet
2007-03-01 14:16                                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-01 14:31                                                           ` Eric Dumazet
2007-03-01 14:27                                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-01 14:54                                                           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-03-01 15:09                                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-01 15:36                                                               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-03-02 10:57                                                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-02 11:48                                                                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-03-02 17:32                                                                   ` Davide Libenzi
2007-03-02 19:39                                                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-02 20:18                                                                       ` Davide Libenzi
2007-03-02 20:29                                                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-02 20:53                                                                           ` Davide Libenzi
2007-03-02 21:21                                                                             ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-03-02 21:43                                                                             ` Nicholas Miell
2007-03-03  0:52                                                                               ` Davide Libenzi
2007-03-03  1:36                                                                                 ` Nicholas Miell
2007-03-03  1:48                                                                                   ` Benjamin LaHaise
2007-03-03  2:19                                                                                   ` Davide Libenzi
2007-03-03  7:19                                                                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-03  7:20                                                                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-03  9:02                                                                                       ` Davide Libenzi
2007-03-01 19:31                                                             ` Davide Libenzi
2007-03-02  8:10                                                               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-03-02 17:13                                                                 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-03-02 19:13                                                                   ` Davide Libenzi
2007-03-03 10:06                                                                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-03-03 18:46                                                                     ` Davide Libenzi
2007-03-03 20:31                                                                       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-03-03 21:57                                                                         ` Davide Libenzi
2007-03-03 22:10                                                                           ` Davide Libenzi
2007-03-04 16:23                                                                           ` Kirk Kuchov
2007-03-04 17:46                                                                             ` Kyle Moffett
2007-03-05  5:23                                                                               ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-03-04 21:17                                                                             ` Davide Libenzi
2007-03-04 22:49                                                                               ` Kirk Kuchov
2007-03-04 22:57                                                                                 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-03-05  4:46                                                                                 ` Magnus Naeslund(k)
2007-03-06  8:19                                                                                 ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-07 12:02                                                                                   ` Kirk Kuchov
2007-03-07 17:26                                                                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-07 17:39                                                                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-07 18:21                                                                                       ` Kirk Kuchov
2007-03-07 18:24                                                                                         ` Jens Axboe
2007-03-07 18:32                                                                                         ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-03-01 12:01                                           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-03-01 11:14                                     ` Eric Dumazet
2007-03-01 11:20                                       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-03-01 11:28                                         ` Eric Dumazet
2007-03-01 11:47                                           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-03-01 13:12                                             ` Eric Dumazet
2007-03-01 14:43                                               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-03-01 14:47                                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-01 15:23                                                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-03-01 15:32                                                     ` Eric Dumazet
2007-03-01 15:41                                                       ` Eric Dumazet
2007-03-01 15:51                                                         ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-03-01 15:47                                                       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-03-01 19:47                                                       ` Davide Libenzi
2007-03-01 14:57                                                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-03-01 12:19                                           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-03-01 12:34                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-01 13:26                                       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-03-01 13:32                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-01 14:24                                           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-03-01 16:56                                     ` David Lang
2007-03-01 17:56                                       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-03-01 18:41                                         ` David Lang
2007-03-01 19:19                                   ` Davide Libenzi
2007-03-01 10:11                                 ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-01 10:19                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-01 11:18                                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-03-02 10:27                                     ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-02 10:37                                       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-03-02 10:56                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-02 11:08                                           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-03-02 17:28                                             ` Davide Libenzi
2007-03-03 10:27                                               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-03-01 19:24                             ` Johann Borck
2007-03-01 19:37                               ` David Lang
2007-03-01 20:34                                 ` Johann Borck
2007-02-27 12:34                       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-27 13:14                         ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-27 13:32                         ` Avi Kivity
2007-02-28  3:03                       ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-02-28  8:02                         ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-28 17:01                           ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-02-28 16:38                         ` Phillip Susi
2007-02-22 19:38         ` Davide Libenzi
2007-02-28  9:45           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-28 16:17             ` Davide Libenzi
2007-02-28 16:42               ` Linus Torvalds
2007-02-28 17:26                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-28 18:22                 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-02-28 18:42                   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-02-28 18:50                     ` Davide Libenzi
2007-02-28 19:03                       ` Chris Friesen
2007-02-28 19:42                         ` Davide Libenzi
2007-03-01  8:38                           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-03-01  9:28                             ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-28 23:12                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-01  1:33                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-03-01  9:15                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-03-01 21:27                   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-02-28 20:21               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-28 21:09                 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-02-28 21:23                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-28 21:46                     ` Davide Libenzi
2007-02-28 22:22                       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-28 22:47                         ` Davide Libenzi
2007-02-22 21:23         ` Zach Brown
2007-02-22 21:32           ` Benjamin LaHaise
2007-02-22 21:44             ` Zach Brown
2007-02-22  1:04     ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-02-22  7:00       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-22  9:29         ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-02-22 10:01 ` Suparna Bhattacharya
2007-02-22 11:20   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-24 18:34 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-25 17:23   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-25 17:44     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-25 17:54       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-25 18:21         ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-25 18:22           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-25 18:37             ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-25 18:34               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-25 20:01                 ` Frederik Deweerdt
2007-02-25 19:21               ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                 ` <20070225194645.GB1353@2ka.mipt.ru>
     [not found]                   ` <20070225195308.GC15681@elte.hu>
     [not found]                     ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0702251232350.6011@alien.or.mcafeemobile.com>
2007-02-26  8:16                       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-26  9:25                         ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-26  9:55                           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-26 10:31                             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-26 10:43                               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-26 20:02                               ` Davide Libenzi
2007-02-26 10:33                             ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-26 10:35                               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-26 10:47                                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-26 12:51                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-26 16:46                                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-27  6:24                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-27 10:41                                         ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-27 10:49                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-25 18:25           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-02-25 18:24             ` Ingo Molnar

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