From: David Chinner <dgc@sgi.com>
To: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>, Paul Jackson <pj@sgi.com>,
Dave Chinner <dgc@sgi.com>, Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/8] Variable Order Page Cache
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 08:42:25 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070419224225.GJ32602149@melbourne.sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070419163504.11948.58487.sendpatchset@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>
On Thu, Apr 19, 2007 at 09:35:04AM -0700, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> Variable Order Page Cache Patchset
>
> This patchset modifies the core VM so that higher order page cache pages
> become possible. The higher order page cache pages are compound pages
> and can be handled in the same way as regular pages.
>
> The order of the pages is determined by the order set up in the mapping
> (struct address_space). By default the order is set to zero.
> This means that higher order pages are optional. There is no attempt here
> to generally change the page order of the page cache. 4K pages are effective
> for small files.
>
> However, it would be good if the VM would support I/O to higher order pages
> to enable efficient support for large scale I/O. If one wants to write a
> long file of a few gigabytes then the filesystem should have a choice of
> selecting a larger page size for that file and handle larger chunks of
> memory at once.
>
> The support here is only for buffered I/O and only for one filesystem (ramfs).
> Modification of other filesystems to support higher order pages may require
> extensive work of other components of the kernel. But I hope this shows that
> there is a relatively easy way to that goal that could be taken in steps..
So looking at this the main thing for converting a filesystem is some extra
bits in the mount process and replacing PAGE_CACHE_* macros with
page_cache_*() wrapper functions.
We can probably set all this up trivially with XFS by allowing block size > page
size filesystems to be mounted and modifying the way we feed pages to a bio
to be aware of compound pages.
> Note that the higher order pages are subject to reclaim. This works in general
> since we are always operating on a single page struct. Reclaim is fooled to
> think that it is touching page sized objects (there are likely issues to be
> fixed there if we want to go down this road).
>
> What is currently not supported:
> - Buffer heads for higher order pages (possible with the compound pages in mm
> that do not use page->private requires upgrade of the buffer cache layers).
Does this mean that the -mm code will currently support bufferheads on compound
pages? We need that before we can get XFS to work with compound pages.
> - Higher order pages in the block layer etc.
It's more drivers that we have to worry about, I think. We don't need to
modify bios to explicitly support compound pages. From bio.h:
/*
* was unsigned short, but we might as well be ready for > 64kB I/O pages
*/
struct bio_vec {
struct page *bv_page;
unsigned int bv_len;
unsigned int bv_offset;
};
So compound pages should be transparent to anything that doesn't
look at the contents of bio_vecs....
> - Mmapping higher order pages
*nod*
hmmm - what about the way we do copyin and copyout from the page cache? ie
we kmap_atomic() them before we access them. Does this need to change?
> The ramfs driver can be used to test higher order page cache functionality
> (and may help troubleshoot the VM support until we get some real filesystem
> and real devices supporting higher order pages).
I don't think it will take much to get XFS to work with a high order
page cache and we can probably insulate the block layer initially with some
kind of bio_add_compound_page() wrapper and some similar
wrapper on the io completion side.
> Comments appreciated.
So far it's much less intrusive than I expected ;)
Cheers,
Dave.
--
Dave Chinner
Principal Engineer
SGI Australian Software Group
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-04-19 22:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-04-19 16:35 Christoph Lameter
2007-04-19 16:35 ` [RFC 1/8] Add order field to address_space struct Christoph Lameter
2007-04-19 16:35 ` [RFC 2/8] Basic allocation for higher order page cache pages Christoph Lameter
2007-04-20 10:55 ` Mel Gorman
2007-04-19 16:35 ` [RFC 3/8] Flushing and zeroing " Christoph Lameter
2007-04-20 11:02 ` Mel Gorman
2007-04-20 16:15 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-04-20 16:51 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-19 16:35 ` [RFC 4/8] Enhance fallback functions in libs to support higher order pages Christoph Lameter
2007-04-19 18:48 ` Adam Litke
2007-04-19 19:10 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-04-19 22:50 ` David Chinner
2007-04-20 1:15 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-04-20 8:21 ` Jens Axboe
2007-04-20 16:01 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-04-20 16:51 ` Jens Axboe
2007-04-20 11:05 ` Mel Gorman
2007-04-20 18:50 ` Dave Kleikamp
2007-04-20 19:10 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-04-20 19:27 ` Dave Kleikamp
2007-04-24 23:00 ` Matt Mackall
2007-04-19 16:35 ` [RFC 5/8] Enhance generic_read/write " Christoph Lameter
2007-04-19 16:35 ` [RFC 6/8] Account for pages in the page cache in terms of base pages Christoph Lameter
2007-04-19 17:45 ` Nish Aravamudan
2007-04-19 17:52 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-04-19 17:54 ` Avi Kivity
2007-04-19 16:35 ` [RFC 7/8] Enhance ramfs to support higher order pages Christoph Lameter
2007-04-20 13:42 ` Mel Gorman
2007-04-20 14:47 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-20 16:30 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-04-20 17:11 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-20 17:15 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-04-20 17:19 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-20 17:57 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-04-20 19:21 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-20 17:59 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-04-20 18:01 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-04-20 18:02 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-04-20 16:20 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-04-19 16:35 ` [RFC 8/8] Add some debug output Christoph Lameter
2007-04-19 19:09 ` [RFC 0/8] Variable Order Page Cache Badari Pulavarty
2007-04-19 19:12 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-04-19 19:11 ` Andi Kleen
2007-04-19 19:15 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-04-20 14:37 ` Mel Gorman
2007-04-19 22:42 ` David Chinner [this message]
2007-04-20 1:14 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-04-20 6:32 ` Jens Axboe
2007-04-20 7:48 ` David Chinner
2007-04-21 22:18 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-19 23:58 ` Maxim Levitsky
2007-04-20 1:15 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-04-20 4:47 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-20 5:27 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-04-20 6:22 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-20 8:42 ` David Chinner
2007-04-20 14:14 ` Mel Gorman
2007-04-20 16:23 ` Christoph Lameter
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