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From: Cornelia Huck <cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>, Greg K-H <greg@kroah.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Please revert 5adc55da4a7758021bcc374904b0f8b076508a11 (PCI_MULTITHREAD_PROBE)
Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 22:36:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070508223653.1bb63b08@gondolin.boeblingen.de.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.0.98.0705081227230.3882@woody.linux-foundation.org>

On Tue, 8 May 2007 12:31:22 -0700 (PDT),
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:

> > What if two devices become hotplugged at the same time? Does this imply 
> > that the bus _always_ needs to do some serializing there?
> 
> You want to test it? Be my guest.

It was more a rhetorical question. If not all drivers can handle it,
serialize at the bus level. But if all drivers can, there's no reason
for the bus to do it. On a bus with a small number of drivers, I
prefer to have the drivers in good shape. (This kind of implies that e.
g. pci needs to serialize, but css/ccw doesn't, and doesn't have to.)

> But the final nail in the coffin is that doing it at the bus level is 
> INFERIOR. As you yourself admitted, it's better to do some things 
> synchronously.

How so? It is possible to do some stuff synchronously. But why
shouldn't other things be done asynchronously?
(And there is a place both for bus-level parallelism and driver-level
parallelism. Just depends on your bus/driver/device.)

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-05-08 20:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-08 13:37 Cornelia Huck
2007-05-08 14:07 ` Greg KH
2007-05-08 20:58   ` David Miller
2007-05-09  9:44     ` Greg KH
2007-05-09 17:21       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-08 14:11 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-05-08 14:41   ` Cornelia Huck
2007-05-08 15:27   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-08 16:38     ` Cornelia Huck
2007-05-08 16:47       ` david
2007-05-08 21:45         ` Stefan Richter
2007-05-08 18:30       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-08 19:21         ` Cornelia Huck
2007-05-08 19:31           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-08 20:01             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-08 20:26               ` david
2007-05-09  7:58                 ` Cornelia Huck
2007-05-09  8:33                   ` david
2007-05-09  9:15                     ` Cornelia Huck
2007-05-09  9:25                       ` david
2007-05-09 13:20                         ` Cornelia Huck
2007-05-09 16:18                           ` david
2007-05-09 17:07                             ` Cornelia Huck
2007-05-09 17:09                               ` david
2007-05-09 17:48                                 ` Cornelia Huck
2007-05-09 17:53                                   ` david
2007-05-09 18:36                                     ` Cornelia Huck
2007-05-09 18:52                                       ` david
2007-05-10  7:38                                         ` Cornelia Huck
2007-05-09 17:07                             ` Greg KH
2007-05-09 17:25                               ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-09  9:30                       ` Stefan Richter
2007-05-09 22:21                 ` Phillip Susi
2007-05-09 22:37                   ` Stefan Richter
2007-05-10 14:23                     ` Phillip Susi
2007-05-10 14:55                       ` Stefan Richter
2007-05-11  7:22                         ` Cornelia Huck
2007-05-08 20:51               ` Cornelia Huck
2007-05-08 21:41               ` David Miller
2007-05-09  9:55                 ` Greg KH
2007-05-09  8:14               ` Duncan Sands
2007-05-09  8:45                 ` Cornelia Huck
2007-05-09  9:16                   ` Duncan Sands
2007-05-09 12:37                     ` Cornelia Huck
2007-05-08 20:36             ` Cornelia Huck [this message]
2007-05-09  9:53       ` Greg KH
2007-05-09 13:38         ` Cornelia Huck
2007-05-09 16:42           ` Greg KH
2007-05-09 16:50             ` david
2007-05-09 17:14               ` Cornelia Huck
2007-05-09 17:09             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-08 21:15     ` David Miller
2007-05-08 22:19       ` Stefan Richter
2007-05-09  9:46       ` Greg KH
2007-05-08 15:15 ` Linus Torvalds

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