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From: David Brown <lkml@davidb.org>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>,
	Michael Kerrisk <mtk-manpages@gmx.net>
Subject: Re: compat_sys_times() bogus until jiffies >= 0.
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 22:00:29 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071108060029.GB3307@old.davidb.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071107152833.6f302c2a.akpm@linux-foundation.org>

On Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 03:28:33PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
>> On Wed, 7 Nov 2007 14:47:22 -0800 David Brown <lkml@davidb.org> wrote:

>> will return '-1' to user space and set the negated clock_t value to errno.
>>
>> At minimum, perhaps it should return a sane errno value.
>
>RETURN VALUE
>       times()  returns  the  number of clock ticks that have elapsed since an
>       arbitrary point in the past.  For Linux 2.4 and earlier this  point  is
>       the  moment  the  system  was  booted.   Since Linux 2.6, this point is
>       (2^32/HZ) - 300 (i.e., about 429 million) seconds  before  system  boot
>       time.   The  return  value  may  overflow  the  possible  range of type
>       clock_t.  On error, (clock_t) -1 is returned, and errno is  set  appro-
>       priately.

The strange -1 behavior is enshrined in history.  I think a better answer
is to tell people to use getrusage() if they want a return result without
this problem.

Adding INITIAL_JIFFIES will fix the case where an embedded system is booted
up to run a test and then shut down, and the mask, although it causes
discontinuities periodically at least moves them away from the early boot.

INITIAL_JIFFIES was a good idea, but it is probably best to keep it inside
of the kernel.

David Brown

      parent reply	other threads:[~2007-11-08  6:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-11-07 22:47 David Brown
2007-11-07 23:28 ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-08  0:18   ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-08  0:54     ` Andreas Schwab
2007-11-08  1:17       ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-08  1:53     ` Paul Mackerras
2007-11-08  2:09       ` David Miller
2007-11-08 10:20         ` Andreas Schwab
2007-11-08 14:42           ` Chris Friesen
2007-11-09 18:20             ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-12-20 11:36               ` Michael Kerrisk
2007-12-20 11:51                 ` David Miller
2007-12-22  0:42                   ` Andi Kleen
2007-12-22  1:41                     ` David Miller
2007-12-22  1:45                       ` David Miller
2007-12-22  1:53                         ` Andi Kleen
2007-12-22  4:36                           ` David Miller
2007-12-22 12:47                             ` Andi Kleen
2007-12-22  1:49                       ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-08 19:25         ` Denys Vlasenko
2007-11-08  3:07       ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-08  3:13         ` David Miller
2007-11-08  5:15           ` Paul Mackerras
2007-11-08  6:24             ` David Miller
2007-11-08  4:59         ` Paul Mackerras
2007-11-08  5:20           ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-08  5:36             ` Paul Mackerras
2007-11-08  6:12               ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-08  6:25             ` David Miller
2007-11-08  7:09               ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-08  7:14                 ` David Miller
2007-11-08  8:53               ` Paul Mackerras
2007-11-08  6:22           ` David Miller
2007-11-08 19:27         ` Denys Vlasenko
2007-11-08  0:50   ` David Miller
2007-11-08  1:13     ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-08  6:00   ` David Brown [this message]

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