From: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@redhat.com>,
Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [git pull] kgdb-light -v10
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 20:22:27 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080212192227.GB6458@one.firstfloor.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.00.0802121001180.2920@woody.linux-foundation.org>
On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 10:11:13AM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, 12 Feb 2008, Andi Kleen wrote:
> >
> > > - the kgdb commands should always act on the *current* CPU only
> > > - add one command that says "switch over to CPU #n" which just releases
> > > the current CPU and sends an IPI to that CPU #n (no timeouts, no
> > > synchronous waiting, no nothing - it's like a "continue", but with a
> > > "try to get the other CPU to stop"
> >
> > The problem I see here is that the kernel tends to get badly confused
> > if one CPU just stops responding. At some point someone does an global
> > IPI and that then hangs. You would need to hotunplug the CPU which
> > is theoretically possible, but quite intrusive.
>
> You're thinking about this totally *wrong*.
>
> You definitely do not want to hot-unplug or isolate anything at all.
I agree that it wouldn't be a good idea -- i was just pointing out
consequences of your proposal.
> Just let the other CPU's hang naturally if they need to wait for IPI's
> etc. What's the downside?
There tend to be timeouts (e.g. softlock/nmi watchdog at least). I think
some of the IPIs eventually time out too. In general losing a lot
of time can lead to weird side effects.
-Andi
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-02-12 18:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-02-11 1:53 kgdb in git-x86#mm review Andi Kleen
2008-02-11 15:32 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-02-11 16:11 ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-11 16:21 ` [git pull] kgdb-light -v8, (was: Re: kgdb in git-x86#mm review) Ingo Molnar
2008-02-11 16:41 ` [git pull] kgdb-light -v8, Jan Kiszka
2008-02-11 16:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-11 17:10 ` [git pull] kgdb-light -v8, (was: Re: kgdb in git-x86#mm review) Andi Kleen
2008-02-11 23:03 ` [git pull] kgdb-light -v9 Ingo Molnar
2008-02-12 10:03 ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-12 9:35 ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-02-12 10:26 ` Roland McGrath
2008-02-12 10:34 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-12 11:27 ` [git pull] kgdb-light -v10 Ingo Molnar
2008-02-12 12:19 ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-12 12:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-12 13:30 ` Jason Wessel
2008-02-12 14:39 ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-12 14:35 ` Jason Wessel
2008-02-12 15:36 ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-12 16:21 ` Jason Wessel
2008-02-12 17:10 ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-12 16:48 ` Jason Wessel
2008-02-12 13:50 ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-12 15:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-12 15:28 ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-12 15:28 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-12 16:11 ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-12 16:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-12 17:01 ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-12 16:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-12 16:42 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-12 17:07 ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-15 12:35 ` [RFC][PATCH] modular kgdb-light (was: Re: [git pull] kgdb-light -v10) Jan Kiszka
2008-02-15 13:32 ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-15 20:24 ` [RFC][PATCH] modular kgdb-light Jason Wessel
2008-02-15 20:36 ` [git pull] kgdb-light -v10 Jason Wessel
2008-02-12 16:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-12 17:01 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-12 17:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-12 18:20 ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-12 18:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-12 19:22 ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2008-02-12 19:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-12 18:20 ` Andrew Morton
2008-02-12 19:16 ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-12 21:01 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-12 19:34 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-02-12 20:16 ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-12 13:18 ` Domenico Andreoli
2008-02-12 13:59 ` Jason Wessel
2008-02-12 15:45 ` Domenico Andreoli
2008-02-11 16:03 ` kgdb in git-x86#mm review Mark Lord
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