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From: Matti Aarnio <matti.aarnio@zmailer.org>
To: Alexander van Heukelum <heukelum@fastmail.fm>
Cc: Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>,
	Harvey Harrison <harvey.harrison@gmail.com>,
	Alexander van Heukelum <heukelum@mailshack.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Alternative implementation of the generic __ffs
Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:31:46 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080420123146.GN3700@mea-ext.zmailer.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1208680941.5276.1248837773@webmail.messagingengine.com>

On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 10:42:21AM +0200, Alexander van Heukelum wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 20:06:57 -0700, "Joe Perches" <joe@perches.com>
> said:
> > On Sun, 2008-04-20 at 01:29 +0300, Matti Aarnio wrote:
> > > I am curious, why not take the code already in glibc ffs() for ARM ?
> > > That is, if the ffs() is all that important detail in kernel ?
> 
> Hi,
> 
> The glibc version is based on a table-lookup. This makes it
> behave differently in hot and cold cache situations. That's
> fine if __ffs is used in tight loops, but in the kernel such
> use of __ffs is avoided because it might be slow. I added it
> to the benchmark, but it would need testing for the cold
> cache case too.
> 
> As for the importance of __ffs in the kernel: as far as I
> know the hot-spots in the kernel using __ffs are the
> schedular (sched_find_first_bit) and the cpu mask walking
> code (for_each_cpu_mask).

Perhaps those hot-spots would benefit from more broadly
accelerable algorithms.   ARM architecture v5 introduced
a CLZ instruction -- Count Leading Zeroes.

Well, gcc's  __builtin_ffs() for ARM Arch5 and up (including
XScale) does things in a bit more interesting way:

  http://mail-index.netbsd.org/port-arm/2002/08/20/0001.html

$ cat try.c
int foo(int i)
{
        return __builtin_ffs(i);
}
$ arm-gp2x-linux-gcc -S -O -march=armv5 try.c 
$ more try.s 
        .file   "try.c"
        .text
        .align  2
        .global foo
        .type   foo, %function
foo:
        @ args = 0, pretend = 0, frame = 0
        @ frame_needed = 0, uses_anonymous_args = 0
        @ link register save eliminated.
        @ lr needed for prologue
        rsb     r3, r0, #0
        and     r3, r3, r0
        clz     r3, r3
        rsb     r0, r3, #32
        bx      lr
        .size   foo, .-foo
        .ident  "GCC: (GNU) 4.1.2 (Fedora GP2X 4.1.2-8.fc9)"


> Greetings,
>     Alexander

/Matti Aarnio

  reply	other threads:[~2008-04-20 12:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-31 17:15 [PATCH] x86: generic versions of find_first_(zero_)bit, convert i386 Alexander van Heukelum
2008-03-31 17:22 ` Stephen Hemminger
2008-03-31 19:38   ` Alexander van Heukelum
2008-03-31 21:58     ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-01  8:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-01  9:46   ` Alexander van Heukelum
2008-04-01 15:41     ` [PATCH] x86: switch x86_64 to generic find_first_bit Alexander van Heukelum
2008-04-01 15:42       ` [PATCH] x86: optimize find_first_bit for small bitmaps Alexander van Heukelum
2008-04-01 15:47         ` [PATCH] x86: remove x86-specific implementations of find_first_bit Alexander van Heukelum
2008-04-03  9:34           ` Alexander van Heukelum
2008-04-04  8:47           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-06 17:03     ` [PATCH] x86: generic versions of find_first_(zero_)bit, convert i386 dean gaudet
2008-04-06 18:51       ` Alexander van Heukelum
2008-04-06 20:22         ` dean gaudet
2008-04-07  8:43           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-07 10:25           ` Alexander van Heukelum
2008-04-18 20:18             ` Alternative implementation of the generic __ffs Alexander van Heukelum
2008-04-18 23:46               ` dean gaudet
2008-04-19  0:09                 ` Harvey Harrison
2008-04-19  0:20                   ` dean gaudet
2008-04-19  0:58                     ` Joe Perches
2008-04-19  1:04                       ` Harvey Harrison
2008-04-19  1:11                         ` dean gaudet
2008-04-19  2:55                           ` Joe Perches
2008-04-19  4:13                             ` dean gaudet
2008-04-19 10:05                               ` Mikael Pettersson
2008-04-19 12:10                               ` Alexander van Heukelum
2008-04-19 18:17                                 ` Joe Perches
2008-04-19 20:26                                   ` Alexander van Heukelum
2008-04-19 22:29                             ` Matti Aarnio
2008-04-20  3:06                               ` Joe Perches
2008-04-20  8:42                                 ` Alexander van Heukelum
2008-04-20 12:31                                   ` Matti Aarnio [this message]
2008-04-21 11:43                                     ` Alexander van Heukelum

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