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From: ext ext Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Adrian Hunter <ext-adrian.hunter@nokia.com>
Cc: ext ext Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Artem Bityutskiy <dedekind@yandex.ru>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>,
	Artem Bityutskiy <Artem.Bityutskiy@nokia.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 26/26] UBIFS: include FS to compilation
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 07:39:32 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080428113932.GA27250@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4815B3AE.5010500@nokia.com>

On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 02:23:26PM +0300, Adrian Hunter wrote:
>>>> But these don't make much sense to me. Why would you want to be able
>>>> to compile out printks at this granularity? Why not enable all of them
>>>> when CONFIG_UBIFS_FS_DEBUG is enabled? 
>>>
>>> Well, its just more convenient for us. If I know the bug is somewhere in
>>> the journal, I enable the journal messages - less flooding. We may
>>> lessen the amount, but it is still handy to have some classes of
>>> prints separate.
>>>
>>> We will think how to lessen the amount and granularity of this. 

note that this last line was _not_ quoted in my mail.

>>> Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>>>> It's everything but convenient :)  Please make it one config option to
>>>> compile in all debug code and then have a module option to select the
>>>> verbosity level at runtime.
>>> Surely that judgement should be made by people who actually debug UBIFS.

> You have gone off on a tangent.  The original context was discussing the
> need for granulated debug messages.  I have restored the context above.

I think you haven't read my statement at all.  Please look at the quoted
bit above.  There is nothing against having different
vebosity/granularity levels, quite to the contrary.  I just told you
that a run-time selection of them is everything but convenient and they
should rather be at runtime. 

> You seem to have mistakenly inferred I was impugning your judgement.  That
> was not the point.

No, the point was that you didn't read my message and/or assumes just
because I'm not 100% on your line of reasoning I'm against you.

> Coming back to your issue of a mount-time option for debug messages.  I am
> not sure any other file systems do that.  In general I would say having to
> switch on the debug config option and also change either the kernel command
> line or init scripts, seems in fact much less convenient.

It means you can be debug different bits without recompiling which is a
very good thing.  Especially if you're debugging moves from one area to
another.

  reply	other threads:[~2008-04-28 11:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-27 14:55 [RFC PATCH] UBIFS - new flash file system Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 01/26] VFS: introduce writeback_inodes_sb() Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 02/26] UBIFS: add I/O sub-system Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 03/26] UBIFS: add flash scanning Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 04/26] UBIFS: add journal replay Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 05/26] UBIFS: add file-system build Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-28 10:12   ` Andrew Morton
2008-03-28 11:04     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 06/26] UBIFS: add superblock and master node Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 07/26] UBIFS: add file-system recovery Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 08/26] UBIFS: add compression support Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 09/26] UBIFS: add key helpers Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 10/26] UBIFS: add the journal Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 11/26] UBIFS: add commit functionality Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 12/26] UBIFS: add TNC implementation Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 13/26] UBIFS: add TNC commit implementation Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 14/26] UBIFS: add TNC shrinker Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 15/26] UBIFS: add LEB properties Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 16/26] UBIFS: add LEB properties tree Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 17/26] " Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 18/26] UBIFS: add LEB find subsystem Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 19/26] UBIFS: add Garbage Collector Artem Bityutskiy
2008-04-01  2:11   ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 20/26] UBIFS: add VFS operations Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-27 13:36   ` Andi Kleen
2008-03-27 13:42     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-04-01 12:08   ` Pekka Enberg
2008-04-01 12:42     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-04-01 13:12       ` Pekka Enberg
2008-04-01 14:04         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-04-01 15:14           ` Adrian Hunter
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 21/26] UBIFS: add budgeting Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 22/26] UBIFS: add extended attribute support Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 23/26] UBIFS: add orphans handling sub-system Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 24/26] UBIFS: add header files Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 25/26] UBIFS: add debugging stuff Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-31 21:00   ` Pekka Enberg
2008-04-01  6:20     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-04-01  7:33       ` Pekka Enberg
2008-04-01  8:32         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-04-01  9:00           ` Pekka Enberg
2008-04-01  9:04             ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-04-01  8:34         ` Adrian Hunter
2008-04-01  7:43       ` Pekka Enberg
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 26/26] UBIFS: include FS to compilation Artem Bityutskiy
2008-04-01  7:39   ` Pekka Enberg
2008-04-01  8:51     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-04-01  9:15       ` Pekka Enberg
2008-04-01  9:25         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-04-01 10:04           ` Pekka Enberg
2008-04-01 10:26             ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-04-01 11:33               ` Pekka Enberg
2008-04-01 11:56                 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-04-26  9:37                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-04-28  7:10                   ` Adrian Hunter
2008-04-28  9:03                     ` ext Christoph Hellwig
2008-04-30  7:04                       ` Adrian Hunter
2008-04-26  9:35       ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-04-28  7:09         ` Adrian Hunter
2008-04-28  9:00           ` ext Christoph Hellwig
2008-04-28 11:23             ` Adrian Hunter
2008-04-28 11:39               ` ext ext Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2008-04-28 12:25                 ` Adrian Hunter
2008-04-28 13:02                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-03-27 16:20 ` [RFC PATCH] UBIFS - new flash file system Josh Boyer
2008-03-28  6:17   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-28  6:45 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-31 12:29 ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-03-31 12:47   ` Adrian Hunter
2008-03-31 13:20     ` Jörn Engel
2008-03-31 14:00       ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-31 17:17         ` Jörn Engel
2008-03-31 20:49           ` Pekka Enberg
2008-03-31 21:21             ` Jörn Engel
2008-04-01  6:00               ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-04-01  5:26       ` UBIFS vs Logfs (was [RFC PATCH] UBIFS - new flash file system) Artem Bityutskiy
2008-04-01  5:28         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-04-01  5:56         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-04-01  9:25           ` Jörn Engel
2008-04-01  9:39             ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-04-01 10:51               ` Jörn Engel
2008-04-01 11:17                 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-04-01  9:19         ` Jörn Engel
2008-04-01  9:46           ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-04-01 11:16             ` Jörn Engel
2008-03-31 13:40   ` [RFC PATCH] UBIFS - new flash file system Jörn Engel
2008-04-01 21:01 ` Matthieu CASTET
2008-04-03  7:07   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-04-18  9:05 ` Thomas Gleixner

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