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From: Artem Bityutskiy <Artem.Bityutskiy@nokia.com>
To: Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>
Cc: Artem Bityutskiy <dedekind@yandex.ru>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Adrian Hunter <ext-adrian.hunter@nokia.com>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 26/26] UBIFS: include FS to compilation
Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 13:26:54 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47F20DEE.7090105@nokia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <84144f020804010304w7057a68cqa5b9a7a5364b9489@mail.gmail.com>

Pekka Enberg wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 12:25 PM, Artem Bityutskiy
> <Artem.Bityutskiy@nokia.com> wrote:
>> JFFS2 has the similar thing. I myself fixed bugs just by asking people
>> enabling them and sending the log. Very useful. This is why we also added
>> them to UBIFS - good JFFS2 experience.
>>
>> Why? What is wrong with this? As I said, we found it very useful in JFFS2,
>> because I has been working with JFFS2 for _long_ time. Talk to David
>> Woodhouse and ask how many times that made him fix a bug just by having
>> people send a log. Why do you want to prevent us from having this?
> 
> First and foremost, JFFS2 uses BUG_ON and doesn't invent it's own
> assert.
True. But it has checking code which may be enabled or disable.
An assert is just a special case of this. You do not say why
it hurts. For me it looks like your personal taste.

We well try to lessen the amount of asserts.

> Furthermore, the debug tracing code prints out human-readable
> text in well-thought of places.
The same is with UBIFS. We will make the amount of messages less,
and the granularity less, that it would be more "well-thought".

> But there simply is no
> comparison between JFFS2 and UBIFS debug logging code. The former is
> cleanly structured whereas yours looks to be totally ad hoc.
What exactly you think is not-structured, we'll fix this.

> But perhaps the problem will go away after you inject some sanity to
> stuff like this:
> 
> fs/ubifs/dir.c: dbg_gen("dent '%.*s' to ino %lu (nlink %d) in dir ino %lu",
> fs/ubifs/dir.c: dbg_gen("dent '%.*s' from ino %lu (nlink %d) in dir ino %lu",
> fs/ubifs/dir.c: dbg_gen("directory '%.*s', ino %lu in dir ino %lu",
> dentry->d_name.len,
> fs/ubifs/dir.c: dbg_gen("dent '%.*s', mode %#x in dir ino %lu",
> fs/ubifs/dir.c: dbg_gen("dent '%.*s' in dir ino %lu",
This means that when debugging is enabled, you'll have prints like:
UBIFS DBG (pid 28398): ubifs_create: dent 'file', mode 0x81a4 in dir ino 1
or
UBIFS DBG (pid 28398): ubifs_setattr: ino 65, ia_valid 0x70

We tried to keep messages shorter because logging takes time and long
messages make it slower to debug the code.

Anyway, we will lessen and re-view this, and make it nicer.

-- 
Best Regards,
Artem Bityutskiy (Артём Битюцкий)

  reply	other threads:[~2008-04-01 10:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-27 14:55 [RFC PATCH] UBIFS - new flash file system Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 01/26] VFS: introduce writeback_inodes_sb() Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 02/26] UBIFS: add I/O sub-system Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 03/26] UBIFS: add flash scanning Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 04/26] UBIFS: add journal replay Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 05/26] UBIFS: add file-system build Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-28 10:12   ` Andrew Morton
2008-03-28 11:04     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 06/26] UBIFS: add superblock and master node Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 07/26] UBIFS: add file-system recovery Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 08/26] UBIFS: add compression support Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 09/26] UBIFS: add key helpers Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 10/26] UBIFS: add the journal Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 11/26] UBIFS: add commit functionality Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 12/26] UBIFS: add TNC implementation Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 13/26] UBIFS: add TNC commit implementation Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 14/26] UBIFS: add TNC shrinker Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 15/26] UBIFS: add LEB properties Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 16/26] UBIFS: add LEB properties tree Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 17/26] " Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 18/26] UBIFS: add LEB find subsystem Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 19/26] UBIFS: add Garbage Collector Artem Bityutskiy
2008-04-01  2:11   ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 20/26] UBIFS: add VFS operations Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-27 13:36   ` Andi Kleen
2008-03-27 13:42     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-04-01 12:08   ` Pekka Enberg
2008-04-01 12:42     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-04-01 13:12       ` Pekka Enberg
2008-04-01 14:04         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-04-01 15:14           ` Adrian Hunter
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 21/26] UBIFS: add budgeting Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 22/26] UBIFS: add extended attribute support Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 23/26] UBIFS: add orphans handling sub-system Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 24/26] UBIFS: add header files Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 25/26] UBIFS: add debugging stuff Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-31 21:00   ` Pekka Enberg
2008-04-01  6:20     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-04-01  7:33       ` Pekka Enberg
2008-04-01  8:32         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-04-01  9:00           ` Pekka Enberg
2008-04-01  9:04             ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-04-01  8:34         ` Adrian Hunter
2008-04-01  7:43       ` Pekka Enberg
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 26/26] UBIFS: include FS to compilation Artem Bityutskiy
2008-04-01  7:39   ` Pekka Enberg
2008-04-01  8:51     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-04-01  9:15       ` Pekka Enberg
2008-04-01  9:25         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-04-01 10:04           ` Pekka Enberg
2008-04-01 10:26             ` Artem Bityutskiy [this message]
2008-04-01 11:33               ` Pekka Enberg
2008-04-01 11:56                 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-04-26  9:37                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-04-28  7:10                   ` Adrian Hunter
2008-04-28  9:03                     ` ext Christoph Hellwig
2008-04-30  7:04                       ` Adrian Hunter
2008-04-26  9:35       ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-04-28  7:09         ` Adrian Hunter
2008-04-28  9:00           ` ext Christoph Hellwig
2008-04-28 11:23             ` Adrian Hunter
2008-04-28 11:39               ` ext ext Christoph Hellwig
2008-04-28 12:25                 ` Adrian Hunter
2008-04-28 13:02                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-03-27 16:20 ` [RFC PATCH] UBIFS - new flash file system Josh Boyer
2008-03-28  6:17   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-28  6:45 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-31 12:29 ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-03-31 12:47   ` Adrian Hunter
2008-03-31 13:20     ` Jörn Engel
2008-03-31 14:00       ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-31 17:17         ` Jörn Engel
2008-03-31 20:49           ` Pekka Enberg
2008-03-31 21:21             ` Jörn Engel
2008-04-01  6:00               ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-04-01  5:26       ` UBIFS vs Logfs (was [RFC PATCH] UBIFS - new flash file system) Artem Bityutskiy
2008-04-01  5:28         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-04-01  5:56         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-04-01  9:25           ` Jörn Engel
2008-04-01  9:39             ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-04-01 10:51               ` Jörn Engel
2008-04-01 11:17                 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-04-01  9:19         ` Jörn Engel
2008-04-01  9:46           ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-04-01 11:16             ` Jörn Engel
2008-03-31 13:40   ` [RFC PATCH] UBIFS - new flash file system Jörn Engel
2008-04-01 21:01 ` Matthieu CASTET
2008-04-03  7:07   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-04-18  9:05 ` Thomas Gleixner

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