From: Adrian Bunk <bunk@kernel.org>
To: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>
Cc: Helge Hafting <helge.hafting@aitel.hist.no>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@kernel.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, trivial@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [2.6 patch] UTF-8 fixes in comments
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:27:18 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080429112718.GD19269@cs181133002.pp.htv.fi> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080429110638.GG1473@1wt.eu>
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 01:06:38PM +0200, Willy Tarreau wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 01:42:16PM +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 12:09:34PM +0200, Willy Tarreau wrote:
>...
> > > Unicode yes, UTF-8 no. UTF-8 is a compressed encoding of unicode.
> > > That's as silly as if you had to replace your terminals to read
> > > native gzip, and expect them as well as all the tools to work
> > > properly!
> >
> > It's not a compressed encoding, it's a variable-length encoding.
> >
> > Besides the size advantages one main advantage of UTF-8 is that ASCII is
> > valid UTF-8. This means that for the ASCII source code in the kernel it
> > doesn't matter whether it's treated as ASCII or UTF-8, and no conversion
> > was needed.
> >
> > You can't get this property with a fixed-size Unicode encoding.
>
> I don't agree. If you refuse character-set mixing, there's no problem.
> Bit 7 of first char == 1 ? => full text is 32 bit.
You miss my point.
The point is:
A conversion "ASCII -> UTF-8" is a nop.
This means when changing the kernel from half a dozen charsets used in
comments to UTF-8 we only had to change the few characters actually
containing non UTF-8.
Going to something like UTF-32 as you suggest would have involved
converting every single file in the kernel.
> Willy
cu
Adrian
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-04-29 11:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-04-28 15:40 Adrian Bunk
2008-04-28 23:05 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-29 1:29 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-04-29 5:06 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-29 6:04 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-04-29 7:29 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-29 8:14 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-29 9:06 ` Helge Hafting
2008-04-29 9:33 ` Alan Cox
2008-04-29 10:09 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-29 10:10 ` Alan Cox
2008-04-29 10:33 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-29 10:34 ` Alan Cox
2008-04-29 22:12 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-29 22:15 ` Alan Cox
2008-04-29 23:05 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-05-01 20:18 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-01 9:46 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2008-04-29 19:33 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-04-29 10:42 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-29 11:06 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-29 11:27 ` Adrian Bunk [this message]
2008-04-29 11:32 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-29 20:18 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-04-30 9:15 ` Helge Hafting
2008-04-30 19:22 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-30 19:42 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-04-29 9:43 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-29 19:31 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-04-29 20:05 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-29 20:09 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-09 12:48 ` David Kågedal
2008-04-29 9:01 ` Alan Cox
2008-04-29 9:19 ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-04-29 9:34 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-29 9:41 ` Alan Cox
2008-04-29 12:18 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-04-30 0:08 Samuel Thibault
2008-04-30 3:38 ` Chris Adams
2008-04-30 9:38 ` Samuel Thibault
2008-04-30 19:45 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-30 19:49 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-05-03 23:50 ` Samuel Thibault
2008-05-04 8:55 ` Willy Tarreau
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