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From: Adrian Bunk <bunk@kernel.org>
To: Helge Hafting <helge.hafting@aitel.hist.no>
Cc: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, trivial@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [2.6 patch] UTF-8 fixes in comments
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 22:22:08 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080430192208.GE29330@cs181133002.pp.htv.fi> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <481838A0.2060507@aitel.hist.no>

On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 11:15:12AM +0200, Helge Hafting wrote:
> Willy Tarreau wrote:
>...
>> It's too easy to impose crappy designs to end-users and tell them that if
>> that does not work they have to file a bug. There are a minimal set of
>> things that must be tested before shipping. Seeing that the default
>> terminal emulator in KDE on Mandriva 2008 is configured in UTF-8 and does
>> not properly render it simply makes me sick. This is broken by design and
>> even distros trying to get it working for years still can't cope with it.
>> There must be a reason.
>>   
> Yeah, ascii-only is a crappy design. :-/ I don't know if mandriva is 
> broken by design - I only use debian.
> It would not surprise me if some distros  botch utf-8 through negligence.
> They are based in english-speaking countries and have their biggest
> user bases there - the majority of their customers aren't going to use  
> more than
> ascii so why should they bother. 

Mandriva is a French company.

And what Willy describes really sounds like someone fiddling with some 
settings (or something like accidentally selecting some non UTF-8 
locale).

Bad things can happen when you somehow get charsets mixed, but 
distributions default to UTF-8 for quite some time, and problems
with a 100% UTF-8 system have therefore become were unlikely.

>...
> Helge Hafting

cu
Adrian

-- 

       "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out
        of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days.
       "Only a promise," Lao Er said.
                                       Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed


  reply	other threads:[~2008-04-30 19:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-04-28 15:40 Adrian Bunk
2008-04-28 23:05 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-29  1:29   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-04-29  5:06     ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-29  6:04       ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-04-29  7:29       ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-29  8:14         ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-29  9:06           ` Helge Hafting
2008-04-29  9:33             ` Alan Cox
2008-04-29 10:09             ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-29 10:10               ` Alan Cox
2008-04-29 10:33                 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-29 10:34                   ` Alan Cox
2008-04-29 22:12                     ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-29 22:15                       ` Alan Cox
2008-04-29 23:05                         ` Willy Tarreau
2008-05-01 20:18                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-01  9:46                   ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2008-04-29 19:33                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-04-29 10:42               ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-29 11:06                 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-29 11:27                   ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-29 11:32                     ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-29 20:18                       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-04-30  9:15               ` Helge Hafting
2008-04-30 19:22                 ` Adrian Bunk [this message]
2008-04-30 19:42                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-04-29  9:43           ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-29 19:31           ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-04-29 20:05             ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-29 20:09               ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-09 12:48       ` David Kågedal
2008-04-29  9:01   ` Alan Cox
2008-04-29  9:19     ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-04-29  9:34     ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-29  9:41       ` Alan Cox
2008-04-29 12:18 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-04-30  0:08 Samuel Thibault
2008-04-30  3:38 ` Chris Adams
2008-04-30  9:38 ` Samuel Thibault
2008-04-30 19:45   ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-30 19:49 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-05-03 23:50   ` Samuel Thibault
2008-05-04  8:55     ` Willy Tarreau

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