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From: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
To: Rene Herman <rene.herman@keyaccess.nl>
Cc: Yinghai Lu <yhlu.kernel@gmail.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: 2.6.26, PAT and AMD family 6
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 06:42:59 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080507064259.36deb978@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4821A7E2.6080101@keyaccess.nl>

On Wed, 07 May 2008 15:00:18 +0200
Rene Herman <rene.herman@keyaccess.nl> wrote:

> On 07-05-08 04:39, Yinghai Lu wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 6:48 PM, Rene Herman
> > <rene.herman@keyaccess.nl> wrote:
> 
> >>  On 2.6.25 and below, my /proc/cpuinfo looks like:
> >>
> >>  processor       : 0
> >>  vendor_id       : AuthenticAMD
> >>  cpu family      : 6
> >>  model           : 7
> >>  model name      : AMD Duron(tm) Processor
> 
> [ ... ]
> 
> >>  flags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 sep mtrr pge
> >> mca cmov pat pse36 mmx fxsr sse syscall mmxext 3dnowext 3dnow ts
> 
> >>  while on current mainline PAT and TS (Temperature Sensor) drop
> >> from the feature flags:
> >>
> >>  flags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 sep mtrr pge
> >> mca cmov pse36 mmx fxsr sse syscall mmxext 3dnowext 3dnow
> >>
> >>  With respect to PAT, I guess it's
> >> 9307cacad0dfe3749f00303125c6f7f0523e5616, "x86: pat cpu feature
> >> bit setting for known cpus" but what's this about?
> >>
> >> Did my cpuinfo lie upto this point or shouldn't the flag be
> >> cleared? The commit message for that change is completely and
> >> totally unhelpful.
> > 
> > others like to to whitebox methods, ..., please try attach patch to
> > see if duron support PAT.
> 
> > diff --git a/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/common.c
> > b/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/common.c index a428ffc..81483ec 100644
> > --- a/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/common.c
> > +++ b/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/common.c
> > @@ -314,6 +314,8 @@ static void __cpuinit early_get_cap(struct
> > cpuinfo_x86 *c) case X86_VENDOR_AMD:
> >  		if (c->x86 >= 0xf && c->x86 <= 0x11)
> >  			set_cpu_cap(c, X86_FEATURE_PAT);
> > +		if (c->x86 == 6 && c->x86_modes == 7)
> > +			set_cpu_cap(c, X86_FEATURE_PAT);
> >  		break;
> >  	case X86_VENDOR_INTEL:
> >  		if (c->x86 == 0xF || (c->x86 == 6 && c->x86_model
> > >= 15))
> 
> s/modes/model/ but, as far as I'm aware, works fine other than that.
> When I boot with CONFIG_X86_PAT after applying that, I see:
> 
> 	x86 PAT enabled: cpu 0, old 0x7040600070406, new
> 0x7010600070106
> 
> and PAT is retained in the feature flags. However, this I do not
> consider very surprising. Why is this code doing what it is doing in
> the first place?
> 
> These feature flags are read from hardware in the CPUID instruction.
> Why is this code then going "ah, this CPU may _claim_ PAT but we
> won't actually believe it unless it's model foo, bar or baz". Is that
> feature flag buggy?
> 

older cpus had various issues with PAT, some blatently obvious, some
more subtle. Since for old systems the mtrrs clearly work fine... the
idea was to not take the risk (since there's no reward) and just leave
them as is, in a working state.

  reply	other threads:[~2008-05-07 13:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-05-07  1:48 Rene Herman
2008-05-07  2:39 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-05-07 12:46   ` Undocumented and duplicated code Adrian Bunk
2008-05-07 13:14     ` Rene Herman
2008-05-07 20:52     ` 2.6.26, PAT and AMD family 6 Thomas Gleixner
2008-05-07 20:59       ` Pavel Machek
2008-05-07 21:10       ` Rene Herman
2008-05-07 21:41         ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-05-07 21:46           ` Adrian Bunk
2008-05-07 22:08             ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-05-07 22:29               ` Pavel Machek
2008-05-07 22:04           ` Rene Herman
2008-05-07 22:23             ` Rene Herman
2008-05-07 22:31           ` Yinghai Lu
2008-05-07 22:57         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-08  0:02           ` Rene Herman
2008-05-08  0:03             ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-08  0:10               ` Rene Herman
2008-05-08  0:19                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-08  0:28                   ` Rene Herman
2008-05-08  1:57                     ` [PATCH] x86: introduce a new Linux defined feature flag for PAT support Rene Herman
2008-05-08  1:58                       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-08  2:11                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-08  2:17                           ` Rene Herman
2008-05-08  2:24                           ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-08  2:28                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-08 12:49                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-05-08 13:08                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-05-08 16:44                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-08 13:11                                 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-05-08 13:33                                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-05-08 14:44                                 ` Rene Herman
2008-05-08 14:53                                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-05-08 16:48                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-08 16:53                                       ` Rene Herman
2008-05-08  2:04                       ` [PATCH] x86: enable PAT support on AMD Duron model 7 Rene Herman
2008-05-08  2:08                         ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-05-08  2:12                           ` Rene Herman
2008-05-08 10:19                       ` [PATCH] x86: introduce a new Linux defined feature flag for PAT support Andi Kleen
2008-05-08 12:40                         ` Rene Herman
2008-05-08 13:39                           ` Andi Kleen
2008-05-08 15:32                             ` Alan Cox
2008-05-08 16:51                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-08  0:21                 ` 2.6.26, PAT and AMD family 6 Thomas Gleixner
2008-05-08  0:30                   ` Rene Herman
2008-05-08  0:15               ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-08  0:31                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-08 10:14                   ` Andi Kleen
2008-05-08 16:43                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-07 21:23       ` Adrian Bunk
2008-05-07 21:54         ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-05-07 22:09           ` Adrian Bunk
2008-05-07 22:14           ` Pavel Machek
2008-05-07 22:22             ` Yinghai Lu
2008-05-07 22:37               ` Pavel Machek
2008-05-07 22:40                 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-05-07 23:02                   ` Pavel Machek
2008-05-07 23:02                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-05-07 23:10                   ` Pavel Machek
2008-05-07 23:46                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-05-07 22:23             ` Yinghai Lu
2008-05-07 22:39               ` Pavel Machek
2008-05-07 22:45                 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-05-07 23:06                   ` Pavel Machek
2008-05-07 23:01               ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-07 22:26             ` Yinghai Lu
2008-05-07 22:30               ` Rene Herman
2008-05-07 22:58             ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-05-07 13:00   ` Rene Herman
2008-05-07 13:42     ` Arjan van de Ven [this message]
2008-05-07 14:09       ` Rene Herman
2008-05-07 14:24         ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-05-07 19:08           ` Rene Herman
2008-05-07 22:17             ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-05-07 19:39     ` Daniel Hazelton
2008-05-07 20:06       ` Rene Herman
2008-05-07 20:16         ` Yinghai Lu
2008-05-07 20:18           ` Yinghai Lu
2008-05-08  4:06             ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-07 20:44 matthieu castet
2008-05-07 20:46 ` matthieu castet

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