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From: Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>
To: Jaroslav Kysela <perex@perex.cz>
Cc: Rene Herman <rene.herman@keyaccess.nl>,
	Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>, Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	ALSA development <alsa-devel@alsa-project.org>
Subject: Re: Moving sound/* to drivers/ ?
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 09:12:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080522071230.GB18607@uranus.ravnborg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0805220809370.1798@tm8103-a.perex-int.cz>

On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 08:26:39AM +0200, Jaroslav Kysela wrote:
> On Thu, 22 May 2008, Rene Herman wrote:
> 
> > On 22-05-08 01:37, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> > 
> > > Speaking as a former OSS driver maintainer, I always preferred
> > > drivers/sound.
> > > 
> > > Though Rene's suggestion (use both sound/ and drivers/sound/) might make
> > > sense if the subsystem code is huge -- I supported the drivers/block/ ->
> > > block/ code movement for example.
> > 
> > Well, not _huge_ but ALSA is very much structured like that; large middle
> > layer with "miniport" drivers (I do by the way expect this was also Takashi
> > plan originally due to him using sound/* and not just "sound/"; that is, I
> > took the * to be shorthand for isa, pci, usb and so on)
> > 
> > From a structural view, the PCM core is just as much not a driver as the IP
> > protocol isn't one and moving all of sound/ to drivers/ would trade the
> > current "why are the drivers not under drivers/?" issue for a "why is all this
> > non-driver code under drivers/?".
> > 
> > This "net model" of sound/ and drivers/sound/ would be cleanest I feel.
> 
> Yes, it was one reason why I used 'sound/' as root of the ALSA tree. The 
> second reason was to move old OSS tree to new directory to make less 
> confusion. And the third reason was to just keep ALSA directory same as in 
> our local development tree (which is out-of-kernel tree - containing only 
> ALSA parts).
That out-of-tree stuff could mirror the kernel directory layout - no?
Then you could have both drivers/ and sound/ in that tree.

We should try to opimize the kernel directory layout to fit the kernel best
and then adapt the out-of-tree stuff to the kernel (IMHO).

	Sam

  reply	other threads:[~2008-05-22  7:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-05-21 21:20 Takashi Iwai
2008-05-21 21:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-21 21:54   ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-05-21 21:58   ` [alsa-devel] " Rene Herman
2008-05-21 22:08     ` Rene Herman
2008-05-21 23:21   ` Moving include/asm-* [was: Re: Moving sound/* to drivers/ ?] Paul Mackerras
2008-05-21 23:51     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-22  0:56       ` Al Viro
2008-05-22  1:20         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-22  1:23           ` Moving include/asm-* David Miller
2008-05-22  8:09             ` Andreas Schwab
2008-05-22 16:12               ` David Miller
2008-05-22 16:32                 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-05-22 17:43                   ` David Miller
2008-05-22  1:23           ` Moving include/asm-* [was: Re: Moving sound/* to drivers/ ?] Harvey Harrison
2008-05-22  1:25             ` Moving include/asm-* David Miller
2008-05-22  1:29             ` Moving include/asm-* [was: Re: Moving sound/* to drivers/ ?] Linus Torvalds
2008-05-22  1:36               ` Al Viro
2008-05-22  4:20               ` Jeff Dike
2008-05-22  5:26                 ` Al Viro
2008-05-22 16:27                   ` Jeff Dike
2008-05-22 17:18                   ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-05-22  1:30           ` Al Viro
2008-05-22 22:52             ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-05-21 22:05 ` [alsa-devel] Moving sound/* to drivers/ ? Timur Tabi
2008-05-21 22:23 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-05-22  8:22   ` Takashi Iwai
2008-05-21 23:37 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-05-21 23:53   ` Rene Herman
2008-05-22  6:26     ` Jaroslav Kysela
2008-05-22  7:12       ` Sam Ravnborg [this message]
2008-05-22  7:20         ` Jaroslav Kysela
2008-05-22  8:11       ` Rene Herman
2008-05-22  8:27     ` Takashi Iwai
2008-05-22  8:55       ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-05-22 15:04         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-22 15:50           ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-05-22 16:40           ` Rene Herman
2008-05-22  9:57       ` Rene Herman
2008-05-22 14:22       ` Adrian Bunk

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