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From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
To: Bart Van Assche <bart.vanassche@gmail.com>
Cc: Oliver Neukum <oliver@neukum.org>, Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: Top 10 bugs/warnings for the week of March 23rd, 2008
Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 19:38:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080526173848.GM32407@duck.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e2e108260805261028o204d4fc7l3f20ad3919cf778b@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon 26-05-08 19:28:23, Bart Van Assche wrote:
> On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 7:09 PM, Oliver Neukum <oliver@neukum.org> wrote:
> > Am Montag 26 Mai 2008 19:01:48 schrieb Theodore Tso:
> >> If the USB stack folks would like to work on how to recognize that
> >> it's the same USB stick that had been previously pulled, so that it
> >> gets the same block device, and we can decide for how long we should
> >> keep dirty buffers around associated with a pulled USB stick, we can
> >> certainly have that conversation.  :-)
> >
> > Even if we could tell whether the device has remained the same, how
> > would we know the medium wasn't exchanged?
> 
> Looking at the filesystem UUID could help -- this is an ID that is
> present as data on the disk, and that is even independent of the bus
> type. See also /dev/disk/by-uuid.
  Yes, but as Oliver wrote if someone modified the filesystem in the mean
time, you won't notice it - UUID doesn't help here.

> For the journaling filesystems I am familiar with the default value
> for the commit parameter is 5 seconds. Would it be a good idea to
> leave the default to 5s for non-removable devices, and to change this
> default to 1s for removable devices ?
  I don't think it's a good idea:
1) You'd even more stress wear-leveling of USB flash drives - btw, given
their sizes it does not make much sence to use ext3 on your USB stick. I
still use VFAT/ext2 there.

2) You'd probably notice performance decrease because of more journaling
overhead.

								Honza
-- 
Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
SUSE Labs, CR

  reply	other threads:[~2008-05-26 17:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-05-23 16:19 Arjan van de Ven
2008-05-23 16:23 ` Top 10 bugs/warnings for the week of May " Arjan van de Ven
2008-05-23 16:42 ` Top 10 bugs/warnings for the week of March " Linus Torvalds
2008-05-23 17:35   ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-05-23 19:31 ` Alan Cox
2008-05-24  0:15 ` Chris Wright
2008-05-24  5:07   ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-05-26  9:36     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-05-24  5:32 ` Greg KH
2008-05-24 22:23 ` Jan Kara
2008-05-24 22:30   ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-05-24 22:45     ` Theodore Tso
2008-05-25 11:58       ` Stefan Richter
2008-05-26  9:39       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-05-26 10:16         ` Theodore Tso
2008-05-26 10:48           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-05-26 16:20             ` Jan Kara
2008-05-26 16:48               ` Ingo Molnar
2008-05-26 17:01                 ` Theodore Tso
2008-05-26 17:09                   ` Oliver Neukum
2008-05-26 17:28                     ` Bart Van Assche
2008-05-26 17:38                       ` Jan Kara [this message]
2008-05-26 17:50                         ` Theodore Tso
2008-05-26 18:23                           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-05-27  6:12                       ` Oliver Neukum
2008-05-27 11:41                     ` Pavel Machek
2008-05-27  3:49                   ` Greg KH
2008-05-27 11:40             ` Pavel Machek
2008-05-26 14:52           ` Stefan Richter

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