From: Vaidyanathan Srinivasan <svaidy@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: David Collier-Brown <davecb@sun.com>
Cc: Tim Connors <tconnors@astro.swin.edu.au>,
Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
dipankar@in.ibm.com, balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Suresh B Siddha <suresh.b.siddha@intel.com>,
Venkatesh Pallipadi <venkatesh.pallipadi@intel.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
Vatsa <vatsa@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Gautham R Shenoy <ego@in.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC v1] Tunable sched_mc_power_savings=n
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:27:37 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080630043327.GA6276@dirshya.in.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4867CE52.8040204@sun.com>
* David Collier-Brown <davecb@sun.com> [2008-06-29 14:02:58]:
> Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org> said on Fri, 27 Jun 2008 00:38:53 +0200:
>>> Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>>>>> And your workload manager could just nice processes. It should probably
>>>>> do that anyways to tell ondemand you don't need full frequency.
>>>>
>>>> Except that I want my nice 19 distcc processes to utilize as much cpu as
>>>> possible, but just not bother any other stuff I might be doing...
>>>
>>> They already won't do that if you run ondemand and cpufreq. It won't
>>> crank up the frequency for niced processes.
>
>
> Tim Connors then wrote:
>> Shouldn't there be a powernice, just as there is an ionice and a nice?
> Hmmn, how about:
>
> User Commands nice(1)
>
> NAME
> nice - invoke a command with an altered priority
>
> SYNOPSIS
> /usr/bin/nice [-increment | -n increment] [-s|-i|-e|-p] command [argu-
> ment...]
>
> DESCRIPTION
> The nice utility invokes command, requesting that it be run
> with a different priority. If -i is specified, the priority
> of (disk) I/O is modified. If -e is specified, ethernet (or
> other networking) priority is changed. If -p is specified, power
> usage priority is changed and if -s is specified, or none of -1,
> -e or -p is specified, then system scheduling priority
> is modified...
This is good. We are exploring powernice. 'Generally' cpu, io and
power nice values should be similar: high or low. Can we comeup with
use cases where we want to have conflicting nice values for cpu, io
and power?
CPU IO POWER
distcc: low low low
firefox: low high high
ssh/shell: high high high
X: high high low
I am trying to find answer to the question: Should we have the power
saving tunable as 'nice' value per process or system wide?
How should we interpret the POWER parameter in a datacenter with power
constraint as mentioned in this thread? Or in a simple case of AC vs
battery in a laptop.
Thanks,
Vaidy
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-06-30 4:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-06-25 19:11 Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2008-06-26 13:49 ` Andi Kleen
2008-06-26 15:01 ` Dipankar Sarma
2008-06-26 18:31 ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2008-06-26 15:01 ` Balbir Singh
2008-06-26 18:08 ` Andi Kleen
2008-06-26 18:52 ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2008-06-26 19:37 ` David Collier-Brown
2008-06-27 6:50 ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2008-06-26 20:17 ` Andi Kleen
2008-06-26 21:00 ` Dipankar Sarma
2008-06-26 21:37 ` Andi Kleen
2008-06-26 21:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-06-26 22:38 ` Andi Kleen
2008-06-27 6:24 ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2008-06-27 7:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-06-27 8:06 ` Andi Kleen
2008-06-28 11:35 ` Tim Connors
2008-06-28 11:55 ` Andi Kleen
2008-06-28 12:22 ` Matthew Garrett
2008-06-28 12:36 ` Andi Kleen
2008-06-28 12:53 ` Matthew Garrett
2008-06-28 11:22 ` Tim Connors
2008-06-29 18:02 ` David Collier-Brown
2008-06-30 4:57 ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan [this message]
2008-06-30 5:55 ` Tim Connors
2008-06-30 14:18 ` David Collier-Brown
2008-06-30 14:31 ` Andi Kleen
2008-06-27 4:54 ` Dipankar Sarma
2008-06-27 8:03 ` Andi Kleen
2008-06-30 16:10 ` Dipankar Sarma
2008-06-27 7:19 ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2008-06-27 4:15 ` Balbir Singh
2008-06-27 8:08 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-06-27 8:50 ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2008-06-27 12:54 ` David Collier-Brown
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