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From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	mchan@broadcom.com, dwmw2@infradead.org, bastian@waldi.eu.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] bnx2 - use request_firmware()
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 07:41:32 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080708074132.7d403e98@the-village.bc.nu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <487293F8.30405@garzik.org>

On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 18:08:56 -0400
> > Not shipping lots of copies
> > Not leaving crap locked in kernel memory when it isn't needed
> > Letting vendors issue firmware updates (which especially in enterprise
> > space is a big issue and right now gets messy with compiled in firmware)
> 
> Do these benefits justify the removal of an actively used feature, one 
> more reliable than its replacement?

I think they do for a lot of drivers. And I dispute the actively used
feature claim except for a tiny number of people.
> 
> >> I think it is, in fact, the driver maintainer's perogative of whether
> >> they want request_firmware() to be supported by their driver or not.
> >> It is they who have to deal with any possible fallout.
> > 
> > And their users and the distributors for whom it can cause enormous pain.
> 
> Where is this enormous pain associated with tg3's compiled-in firmware? 
>   It's been quite convenient.

How many kernel updates do you think all the worlds users and
distributors have transferred. How much bandwidth and time do you think
that cost ?

Alan

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-07-08  7:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20080704225415.GA557@wavehammer.waldi.eu.org>
2008-07-05  9:44 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-07  4:21   ` Michael Chan
2008-07-07  7:53     ` Bastian Blank
2008-07-07  9:03     ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-07 18:56       ` Michael Chan
2008-07-07 21:38         ` David Miller
2008-07-07 21:19           ` Alan Cox
2008-07-07 22:05             ` David Miller
2008-07-08  6:39               ` Alan Cox
2008-07-08  8:58                 ` David Miller
2008-07-09 20:25                   ` request_firmware vs. resume (was Re: [PATCH] bnx2 - use request_firmware()) Pavel Machek
2008-07-09 21:13                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-07-09 21:20                       ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-09 21:58                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-07-09 22:23                           ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-09 22:33                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-07-07 22:08             ` [PATCH] bnx2 - use request_firmware() Jeff Garzik
2008-07-07 23:01               ` David Miller
2008-07-08  6:41               ` Alan Cox [this message]
2008-07-08  9:00                 ` David Miller
2008-07-08  3:30             ` david
2008-07-08  6:49               ` Alan Cox

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