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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com>
Subject: Re: [git pull] core, x86: make LIST_POISON less deadly
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 17:12:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080714151247.GA27145@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0807140758100.3305@woody.linux-foundation.org>


* Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:

> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> >  
> > +config ILLEGAL_POINTER_VALUE
> > +       hex
> > +       default 0 if X86_32
> > +       default 0xffffc10000000000 if X86_64
> 
> This looks like a singularly bad pointer value on x86-64.
> 
> Why not pick something that is *guaranteed* to fault? The above looks 
> like any future setup that supports 41 bits of addressing and has 
> extended the page tables (yes, it will happen eventually) will find 
> that to be a perfectly valid address?
> 
> It's also visually confusing, since it's visually very close to a real 
> kernel pointer too.
> 
> Grr.
> 
> Why not use something sane like 0xdead000000000000, which has the high 
> bit set but very fundamentally isn't a valid pointer, and never will 
> be? And which is a *lot* more visually obvious too!

initially i suggested that too - but such addresses raise a #GP instead 
of a page fault so their decoding is a bit harder.

We dont do any instruction decoding in #GP handlers to figure out what 
happened, while in the pagefault case we know which address faulted, 
etc.

Perhaps we could try to make #GP handlers a bit more informative - 
although decoding instructions will make things a bit more fragile 
inevitably.

Perhaps make it 0xffffcdead0000000 ?

in any case, please ignore this topic until it's all worked out - no 
other topics depend on this one so it can be skipped safely.

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2008-07-14 15:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-07-14 14:48 Ingo Molnar
2008-07-14 15:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-14 15:12   ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2008-07-14 15:53     ` Avi Kivity
2008-07-14 15:59     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-14 16:07       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-14 16:08       ` Avi Kivity
2008-07-14 16:26         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-14 16:34           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-14 18:33       ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-14 18:42         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-14 19:11           ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-14 19:30             ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-14 19:42               ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-14 18:35   ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-14 18:42     ` Linus Torvalds

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