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From: tvrtko.ursulin@sophos.com
To: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Cc: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, andi@firstfloor.org,
	Eric Paris <eparis@redhat.com>,
	greg@kroah.com, hch@infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org,
	malware-list@lists.printk.net, peterz@infradead.org,
	riel@redhat.com, Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>,
	viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk
Subject: Re: TALPA - a threat model?  well sorta.
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 10:18:02 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080814091810.12E8B2FE8B4@pmx1.sophos.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080813112149.2fda0fa4@infradead.org>

Arjan van de Ven wrote on 13/08/2008 19:21:49:

> > However, questions of which version of virus database was used to scan
> > a particular file should be stored outside of the filesystem, since
> 
> well I was assuming we only store this in memory (say in the inode) and
> just rescan the file if we destroy the in memory inode.
> I don't see the need for this to be persistent data; in fact I assume
> (Eric, please confirm) that this data is not *supposed* to be
> persistent.

Correct.

> > each product will have its own version namespace, and the questions of
> > what happens if a user switches from one version checker to another is
> 
> yes that's a hard question; what if you have 2 virus scanners active.
> 
> (they could register a version of the database with the kernel, and the
> in kernel version-cookie could be a hash of all registered versions I
> suppose.. if anything changes ever we just rehash and scan as if we
> have to do that)

It is in fact really simple with the proposed inode versioning approach. 
Any client which wants to invalidate the cache just needs to bump the 
global version number which will force a rescan on next access.

Tvrtko


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  reply	other threads:[~2008-08-14  9:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-13 16:36 Eric Paris
2008-08-13 16:24 ` Alan Cox
2008-08-13 16:47   ` Eric Paris
2008-08-13 16:37     ` Alan Cox
2008-08-13 17:00       ` Eric Paris
2008-08-13 19:59         ` Alan Cox
2008-08-13 21:24           ` [malware-list] " Press, Jonathan
2008-08-13 21:13             ` Alan Cox
2008-08-13 21:35             ` Rik van Riel
2008-08-13 21:23               ` Alan Cox
2008-08-15  3:25                 ` Eric Paris
2008-08-15 20:16               ` Jan Harkes
2008-08-15 22:05                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-08-17 23:19                   ` Eric Paris
2008-08-17 23:26                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-08-17 21:11                       ` David Collier-Brown
2008-08-18 15:33                     ` Alan Cox
2008-08-18 16:43                       ` Rik van Riel
     [not found]                         ` <20080819071416.GA14731@elf.ucw.cz>
2008-08-19 16:10                           ` HSM (was Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta.) Rik van Riel
2008-08-19 19:20                             ` Pavel Machek
2008-08-19 20:33                               ` Rik van Riel
2008-08-20 17:03                                 ` Pavel Machek
2008-08-13 17:07   ` TALPA - a threat model? well sorta Christoph Hellwig
2008-08-14 13:00   ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-13 16:57 ` Greg KH
2008-08-13 17:39 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-08-13 18:15   ` Theodore Tso
2008-08-13 18:21     ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-08-14  9:18       ` tvrtko.ursulin [this message]
2008-08-13 19:02     ` Eric Paris
2008-08-13 19:29       ` Theodore Tso
2008-08-13 21:15         ` [malware-list] " Press, Jonathan
2008-08-14  9:30         ` tvrtko.ursulin
2008-08-14 12:03           ` Press, Jonathan
2008-08-14 12:27             ` tvrtko.ursulin
2008-08-15 14:31               ` Pavel Machek
2008-08-14 13:24           ` Theodore Tso
2008-08-14 13:48             ` Eric Paris
2008-08-14 15:50               ` Theodore Tso
2008-08-14 17:29                 ` Eric Paris
2008-08-14 19:17                   ` Theodore Tso
2008-08-14 19:20                     ` Eric Paris
2008-08-14 19:34                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-08-14 19:41                       ` Theodore Tso
2008-08-14 20:20                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-08-14 21:21                           ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-08-14 23:34                             ` Theodore Tso
2008-08-19 21:43                               ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-08-15  1:44                         ` david
2008-08-15  2:04                           ` Theodore Tso
2008-08-15  3:41                             ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-08-15  5:05                               ` david
2008-08-15  5:12                                 ` Johannes Weiner
2008-08-15  5:28                                   ` david
2008-08-15  5:36                                 ` david
2008-08-15  4:48                             ` david
2008-08-15  8:51                             ` Alan Cox
2008-08-15 14:37                 ` Pavel Machek
2008-08-13 18:57   ` Eric Paris
2008-08-13 21:39     ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-08-14 14:12       ` Eric Paris
2008-08-14 15:57         ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-08-15 10:07         ` Helge Hafting
2008-08-15 10:37           ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-15 13:10             ` [malware-list] " Press, Jonathan
2008-08-15 13:18               ` douglas.leeder
2008-08-15 17:04                 ` Theodore Tso
2008-08-15 18:09                   ` Press, Jonathan
2008-08-18 10:09                     ` Helge Hafting
2008-08-18 10:14                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-18 10:24                         ` tvrtko.ursulin
2008-08-18 10:25                       ` douglas.leeder
2008-08-15 16:25               ` david
2008-08-15 16:30                 ` Press, Jonathan
2008-08-15 17:33                   ` david
2008-08-15 17:40                     ` Press, Jonathan
2008-08-15 17:47                       ` david
2008-08-15 18:06                         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-08-15 20:05                           ` david
2008-08-15 20:17                           ` Theodore Tso
2008-08-15 18:17                         ` Press, Jonathan
2008-08-15 20:08                           ` david
2008-08-18 10:02               ` Helge Hafting
2008-08-15 10:44           ` tvrtko.ursulin
2008-08-14  9:46     ` [malware-list] " tvrtko.ursulin
2008-08-14 13:46       ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-08-15  1:37       ` david
2008-08-15  1:31   ` david
2008-08-15 16:06   ` Pavel Machek
2008-08-18 12:21     ` david
2008-08-18 13:30       ` Pavel Machek
2008-08-19  0:03         ` david
2008-08-13 18:17 ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-13 18:21   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-08-13 18:24   ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-08-13 18:40   ` Eric Paris
2008-08-14  0:18   ` Mihai Donțu
2008-08-14 11:58     ` [malware-list] " Press, Jonathan
2008-08-14 12:34       ` Mihai Donțu
2008-08-14  0:14 ` 7v5w7go9ub0o
2008-08-14  2:25   ` 7v5w7go9ub0o

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