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From: Bjorn Helgaas <bjorn.helgaas@hp.com>
To: Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>, Frans Pop <elendil@planet.nl>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Marcel Selhorst <tpm@selhorst.net>,
	Thomas Renninger <trenn@suse.de>, Adam Belay <ambx1@neo.rr.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
Subject: Re: char/tpm: tpm_infineon no longer loaded for HP 2510p laptop
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:31:15 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200808211031.16248.bjorn.helgaas@hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1219333105.20723.45.camel@lgn.site>

On Thursday 21 August 2008 09:38:25 am Kay Sievers wrote:
> On Thu, 2008-08-21 at 09:14 -0600, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> > Can somebody elaborate on why we need to add "acpi*" aliases for all
> > PNP devices?  That broadens the kernel/user interface, so I'd like
> > to understand why we need it.

Sorry, I should have prefaced my question with "I'm completely ignorant
of this modalias stuff."  Is there a "complete idiot's guide to modules
and udev"?  There's precious little in Documentation/ other than a bunch
of sample rules for various subsystems.

> We already do ACPI module autoloading by MODALIAS for other things than
> pnp. ACPI exports the pnp devices with modalias, but the modules do not
> have a matching alias, this add them.

I'm guessing this has something to do with acpi_device_uevent().

> PNP has no MODALIAS support at all, and the current pnp-aliases would
> not work for the standard modalias method, they would need to change
> their format.

pnp_bus_type has no .uevent method.  What if I added one?  Would that
help this situation?

It seems wrong for file2alias.c to take every PNP device (even if it's
an ISAPNP or PNPBIOS device) and add "acpi*" aliases for it.

> The plan is to replace the current pnp modprobe shell script hack in
> udev, when ACPI devices load the right modules without any special
> userspace mangling.

Is this the shell hack you mean (from etc/udev/rules.d/80-drivers.rules
in udev-117)?

  SUBSYSTEM=="pnp", DRIVER!="?*", ENV{MODALIAS}!="?*", \
    RUN{ignore_error}+="/bin/sh -c '/sbin/modprobe -a $$(while read id; do echo pnp:d$$id; done < /sys$devpath/id)'"

I agree that's gross.  Could I fix this by implementing pnp_device_uevent()?

Bjorn

  reply	other threads:[~2008-08-21 16:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-18 13:40 Frans Pop
2008-08-20 15:56 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2008-08-21 12:40   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-08-21 13:28     ` Kay Sievers
2008-08-21 15:14       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2008-08-21 15:38         ` Kay Sievers
2008-08-21 16:31           ` Bjorn Helgaas [this message]
2008-08-21 20:30       ` Frans Pop
2008-08-21 21:18 Kay Sievers
2008-08-21 21:58 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2008-08-22  8:40   ` Kay Sievers
2008-08-22 12:06     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2008-08-22 12:43       ` Kay Sievers
2008-10-03 22:01         ` Bjorn Helgaas
2008-10-04 12:09           ` Kay Sievers
2008-10-04 15:31             ` Bjorn Helgaas
2008-10-04 16:27               ` Kay Sievers

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