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From: "Kay Sievers" <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>
To: "Bjorn Helgaas" <bjorn.helgaas@hp.com>
Cc: ambx1@neo.rr.com, elendil@planet.nl, trenn@suse.de,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	tpm@selhorst.net, rjw@sisk.pl, greg@kroah.com
Subject: Re: char/tpm: tpm_infineon no longer loaded for HP 2510p laptop
Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 14:09:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ac3eb2510810040509q24b26c8ek2bd6ca75343e2553@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200810031601.31322.bjorn.helgaas@hp.com>

On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 12:01 AM, Bjorn Helgaas <bjorn.helgaas@hp.com> wrote:
> On Friday 22 August 2008 06:43:05 am Kay Sievers wrote:
>> On Fri, 2008-08-22 at 06:06 -0600, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
>> > Since PNP currently doesn't generate any uevents or modalias files,
>> > I expect that a non-ACPI system will be unable to autoload modules
>> > for ISAPNP or PNPBIOS devices.  Right?
>>
>> They do create events, but without modalias. The shell script hack,
>> which udev runs, will make the event behave like it contained one.
>
> I'm finally looking at this again; sorry for the long hiatus.  I'm
> working on a patch to add PNP uevent support, modalias sysfs files
> for PNP, and file2alias.c changes to match, and I just want to
> make sure I'm understanding this correctly.

Sounds good, just in mind, that there are custom modprobe configs out
there, that rely on the current pnp alias format, like:
  alias pnp:dPNP0510 irtty-sir
  alias pnp:dPNP0511 irtty-sir
  alias pnp:dPNP0700 floppy
  alias pnp:dPNP0303 atkbd
  alias pnp:dPNP0f13 psmouse
  ...
We should make sure, that this still works, which wouldn't if we just
do the acpi style aliases.

> Before your file2alias.c changes[1], I think we generated this:
>    alias pnp:dPNP0500* 8250_pnp
>
> We relied on the udev shell hack to run "modprobe -a pnp:dPNP0500"
> based on the contents of /sys/bus/pnp/devices/00:05/id.
>
> With your file2alias.c changes, we now generate this:
>    alias acpi*:PNP0500:* 8250_pnp
>    alias pnp:dPNP0500* 8250_pnp
>
> On ACPI systems, this works fine because "acpi*:PNP0500:*" matches
> the ACPI-generated uevents like:
>    MODALIAS=acpi:PNP0501:PNP0500:
>
> We can load 8250_pnp without relying on the udev shell hack
> *on ACPI systems*.
>
> I thought the object of your file2alias.c changes was to remove the
> need for the udev shell hack, but don't we still require it on
> non-ACPI systems because they won't emit the ACPI uevents?

Yes, the plan is to move that rule from the default udev rule set to
the isapnp package.

Thanks,
Kay

  reply	other threads:[~2008-10-04 12:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-21 21:18 Kay Sievers
2008-08-21 21:58 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2008-08-22  8:40   ` Kay Sievers
2008-08-22 12:06     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2008-08-22 12:43       ` Kay Sievers
2008-10-03 22:01         ` Bjorn Helgaas
2008-10-04 12:09           ` Kay Sievers [this message]
2008-10-04 15:31             ` Bjorn Helgaas
2008-10-04 16:27               ` Kay Sievers
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-08-18 13:40 Frans Pop
2008-08-20 15:56 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2008-08-21 12:40   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-08-21 13:28     ` Kay Sievers
2008-08-21 15:14       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2008-08-21 15:38         ` Kay Sievers
2008-08-21 16:31           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2008-08-21 20:30       ` Frans Pop

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