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From: Mike Hommey <mh@glandium.org>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: Archie Cobbs <archie@dellroad.org>,
	fuse-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, miklos@szeredi.hu,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, greg@kroah.com
Subject: Re: [fuse-devel] [PATCHSET] CUSE: implement CUSE
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 20:56:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080830185613.GC12546@glandium.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48B93D68.6040506@kernel.org>

On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 02:30:32PM +0200, Tejun Heo wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Archie Cobbs wrote:
> >> Thought about that but it's really no different from nbd or loop
> >> depending on your application and block devices don't really implement
> >> the file operations so it won't have too much in common with FUSE.
> > 
> > I think BUSE would be useful. For one, it allows you to avoid problems with
> > the extra caching you get with a loopback device. And NBD is too limiting
> > for some applications.
> > 
> > For my half-ignorant analysis of the caching issues, see:
> >   http://code.google.com/p/s3backer/wiki/PerformanceConsiderations#Caching
> > 
> > This is also an example of an application where NBD doesn't suffice.
> > 
> >> Also, there's the complication of going out to disk for more memory cases.
> > 
> > Not sure what you mean exactly (my fault), but it seems BUSE would have fewer
> > places for memory problems (including deadlocks) than loopback over FUSE,
> > which is the only way to do this kind of stuff now.
> 
> Yeah, compared to loopback over FUSE, anything would have less
> problem. :-) I don't know much about nbd but it's pretty much solving
> the same problem so I think it's logical to extend nbd including
> giving it a new transport if necessary?  Or is there something
> fundamentally better when it's done via FUSE?

My gutt feeling is that it would have less overhead when done via FUSE
than through nbd, but that could be wrong.

Mike

  reply	other threads:[~2008-08-30 18:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-28 18:18 Tejun Heo
2008-08-28 18:19 ` [PATCH 1/5] FUSE: add fuse_ prefix to several functions Tejun Heo
2008-08-28 18:19 ` [PATCH 2/5] FUSE: export symbols to be used by CUSE Tejun Heo
2008-08-28 18:19 ` [PATCH 3/5] FUSE: separate out fuse_conn_init() from new_conn() Tejun Heo
2008-08-28 18:19 ` [PATCH 4/5] FUSE: add fuse_conn->release() Tejun Heo
2008-08-28 18:19 ` [PATCH 5/5] CUSE: implement CUSE - Character device in Userspace Tejun Heo
2008-08-28 20:07   ` Andrew Morton
2008-08-28 22:15     ` Greg KH
2008-08-28 22:32       ` Andrew Morton
2008-08-29  2:09     ` Tejun Heo
2008-08-29  2:20       ` Andrew Morton
2008-08-29 15:27       ` Nick Bowler
2008-08-29  5:50 ` [fuse-devel] [PATCHSET] CUSE: implement CUSE Mike Hommey
2008-08-29  5:52   ` Tejun Heo
2008-08-29 18:50     ` Archie Cobbs
2008-08-30 12:30       ` Tejun Heo
2008-08-30 18:56         ` Mike Hommey [this message]
2008-09-01  7:20           ` Goswin von Brederlow
2008-09-01  7:38             ` Mike Hommey
2008-08-30 22:39         ` Archie Cobbs
2008-08-31  4:52   ` hooanon05
2008-08-30 16:35 ` Goswin von Brederlow

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