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From: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
To: pageexec@freemail.hu
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@elte.hu, tglx@tglx.de,
	hpa@zytor.org, Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Subject: Re: [patch] Add basic sanity checks to the syscall execution patch
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 09:05:59 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080905090559.7cbc74f3@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48C0FF43.30940.2C3EFC0@pageexec.freemail.hu>

On Fri, 05 Sep 2008 11:43:31 +0200
pageexec@freemail.hu wrote:

> consider how your whole patch is based on one big self-contradiction.
> you already assume that the attacker *can* modify arbitrary kernel
> memory (even the otherwise *read-only* syscall table at that), but at
> the very same time you're saying he *can't* use the same powers to
> patch out your 'protection' or do many other things to evade it. as
> it is, it's cargo cult security at its best, reminding one on the
> Vista kernel's similar 'protection' mechanism for the service
> descriptor tables...


so I'm not going to say that the patch is important or good;
it's the result of ben mentioning the idea on irc and me thinking "sure
lets see what it would take and cost".
Nothing more than that


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      parent reply	other threads:[~2008-09-05 16:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-09-04  2:51 Arjan van de Ven
2008-09-04 12:01 ` Andi Kleen
2008-09-04 12:34   ` Alan Cox
2008-09-04 13:06     ` Andi Kleen
2008-09-04 12:44   ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-09-05  9:43     ` pageexec
2008-09-05 10:14       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-09-05 10:49         ` pageexec
2008-09-05 10:57           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-09-05 11:42             ` Ingo Molnar
2008-09-05 12:00               ` pageexec
2008-09-05 15:42                 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-09-05 16:23                   ` pageexec
2008-09-05 16:52                     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-09-05 17:26                       ` Andi Kleen
2008-09-05 19:42                         ` pageexec
2008-09-05 20:48                           ` Andi Kleen
2008-09-05 19:37                       ` pageexec
2008-09-06 15:42                         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-09-07  0:17                           ` pageexec
2008-09-05 12:01               ` Andi Kleen
2008-09-05 20:41               ` Willy Tarreau
2008-09-06 15:45                 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-09-06 16:34                   ` Jeroen van Rijn
2008-09-07 12:53                   ` Pavel Machek
2008-09-05 16:05       ` Arjan van de Ven [this message]

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