From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
To: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com>
Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>,
Benjamin Thery <benjamin.thery@bull.net>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Al Viro <viro@ftp.linux.org.uk>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: sysfs: tagged directories not merged completely yet
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 16:39:36 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081007233936.GA23282@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081007225424.GA9430@us.ibm.com>
On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 05:54:24PM -0500, Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
> Quoting Greg KH (greg@kroah.com):
> > On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 01:27:17AM -0700, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> > > Unless someone will give an example of how having multiple superblocks
> > > sharing inodes is a problem in practice for sysfs and call it good
> > > for 2.6.28. Certainly it shouldn't be an issue if the network namespace
> > > code is compiled out. And it should greatly improve testing of the
> > > network namespace to at least have access to sysfs.
> >
> > But if the network namespace code is in? THen we have problems, right?
> > And that's the whole point here.
> >
> > The fact that you are trying to limit userspace view of in-kernel data
> > structures, based on that specific user, is, in my opinion, crazy.
> >
> > Why not just keep all users from seeing sysfs, and then have a user
> > daemon doing something on top of FUSE if you really want to see this
> > kind of stuff.
>
> Well the blocker is really that when you create a new network namespace,
> it wants to create a new loopback interface, but
> /sys/devices/virtual/net/lo already exists. That's the same issue with
> user namespace when the fair scheduler is enabled, which tries to
> re-create /sys/kernel/uids/0.
>
> Otherwise yeah at least for my own uses, containers wouldn't need to
> look at /sys at all.
>
> Heck you wouldn't even need FUSE, just mount -t tmpfs /sys/class/net
> and manually link the right devices from /sys/devices/virtual/net.
Great, that sounds like a solution.
So tell me again why we need these huge sysfs reworks? :)
thanks,
greg k-h
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-10-07 23:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-09-22 14:31 Benjamin Thery
2008-09-22 15:34 ` Greg KH
2008-09-22 20:24 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-09-23 14:24 ` Benjamin Thery
2008-09-23 18:23 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-03 10:13 ` Al Viro
2008-10-05 5:32 ` Greg KH
2008-10-07 8:27 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-07 10:47 ` [PATCH 0/3] minor sysfs tagged directory fixes Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-07 10:49 ` [PATCH 1/3] sysfs: Remove lock ordering violation in sysfs_chmod_file Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-07 10:51 ` [PATCH 2/3] sysfs: Fix and sysfs_mv_dir by using lock_rename Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-07 10:52 ` [PATCH 3/3] sysfs: Take sysfs_mutex when fetching the root inode Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-07 21:21 ` [PATCH 2/3] sysfs: Fix and sysfs_mv_dir by using lock_rename Dave Hansen
2008-10-07 21:19 ` [PATCH 1/3] sysfs: Remove lock ordering violation in sysfs_chmod_file Dave Hansen
2008-10-07 22:31 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-07 22:27 ` sysfs: tagged directories not merged completely yet Greg KH
2008-10-07 22:54 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-10-07 23:39 ` Greg KH [this message]
2008-10-08 0:12 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-10-08 0:38 ` Greg KH
2008-10-08 14:18 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-10-07 23:34 ` Tejun Heo
2008-10-14 1:11 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-14 7:55 ` Tejun Heo
2008-10-14 12:19 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-15 11:04 ` Tejun Heo
2008-10-16 21:58 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-14 18:53 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-10-15 0:48 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-15 13:42 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-10-15 13:54 ` Benjamin Thery
2008-10-08 0:39 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-08 1:29 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-07 8:08 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-07 9:01 ` Daniel Lezcano
2008-10-07 9:12 ` Tejun Heo
2008-10-07 11:56 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-07 12:19 ` Tejun Heo
2008-10-07 23:17 ` Tejun Heo
2008-10-08 0:04 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-08 0:20 ` Tejun Heo
2008-10-08 0:58 ` Eric W. Biederman
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