From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>,
Benjamin Thery <benjamin.thery@bull.net>,
Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com>,
Al Viro <viro@ftp.linux.org.uk>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: sysfs: tagged directories not merged completely yet
Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 17:58:34 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1skr7hphh.fsf@frodo.ebiederm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48EBFCD3.4050809@kernel.org> (Tejun Heo's message of "Wed, 08 Oct 2008 09:20:35 +0900")
Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org> writes:
> Hmmm... I'm probably missing something (and being lazy) but how does it
> guarantee the validity of the next pointer after dropping the rcu lock?
So in next_tid which is essentially what we would be doing.
I grab the rcu_lock. Check something to see if the task I have
is still on the list, if it is then I know the next is valid until
the end of the rcu grace period. Then I follow the next pointer,
and grab the lock again.
rcu is pain to get right but at least it is localized pain.
>> I'm still not certain how we can get the lock ordering so it doesn't
>> cause us problems. I will look at revalidation and what the other
>> distributed filesystems are doing and see if that might work. If it
>> doesn't we need refactor the VFS locking.
>
> Yeah, if we can make sysfs behave like other distributed filesystems, it
> would be great. :-)
I don't think we can make it work but I think we need to exhaust that
avenue before saying that the VFS has to change.
Eric
prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-10-08 1:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-09-22 14:31 Benjamin Thery
2008-09-22 15:34 ` Greg KH
2008-09-22 20:24 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-09-23 14:24 ` Benjamin Thery
2008-09-23 18:23 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-03 10:13 ` Al Viro
2008-10-05 5:32 ` Greg KH
2008-10-07 8:27 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-07 10:47 ` [PATCH 0/3] minor sysfs tagged directory fixes Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-07 10:49 ` [PATCH 1/3] sysfs: Remove lock ordering violation in sysfs_chmod_file Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-07 10:51 ` [PATCH 2/3] sysfs: Fix and sysfs_mv_dir by using lock_rename Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-07 10:52 ` [PATCH 3/3] sysfs: Take sysfs_mutex when fetching the root inode Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-07 21:21 ` [PATCH 2/3] sysfs: Fix and sysfs_mv_dir by using lock_rename Dave Hansen
2008-10-07 21:19 ` [PATCH 1/3] sysfs: Remove lock ordering violation in sysfs_chmod_file Dave Hansen
2008-10-07 22:31 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-07 22:27 ` sysfs: tagged directories not merged completely yet Greg KH
2008-10-07 22:54 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-10-07 23:39 ` Greg KH
2008-10-08 0:12 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-10-08 0:38 ` Greg KH
2008-10-08 14:18 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-10-07 23:34 ` Tejun Heo
2008-10-14 1:11 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-14 7:55 ` Tejun Heo
2008-10-14 12:19 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-15 11:04 ` Tejun Heo
2008-10-16 21:58 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-14 18:53 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-10-15 0:48 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-15 13:42 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-10-15 13:54 ` Benjamin Thery
2008-10-08 0:39 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-08 1:29 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-07 8:08 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-07 9:01 ` Daniel Lezcano
2008-10-07 9:12 ` Tejun Heo
2008-10-07 11:56 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-07 12:19 ` Tejun Heo
2008-10-07 23:17 ` Tejun Heo
2008-10-08 0:04 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-08 0:20 ` Tejun Heo
2008-10-08 0:58 ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
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