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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Manfred Spraul <manfred@colorfullife.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, cl@linux-foundation.org,
	mingo@elte.hu, akpm@linux-foundation.org, dipankar@in.ibm.com,
	josht@linux.vnet.ibm.com, schamp@sgi.com, niv@us.ibm.com,
	dvhltc@us.ibm.com, ego@in.ibm.com, laijs@cn.fujitsu.com,
	rostedt@goodmis.org, peterz@infradead.org,
	penberg@cs.helsinki.fi, andi@firstfloor.org, tglx@linutronix.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH, RFC] v7 scalable classic RCU implementation
Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 15:46:29 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081012224629.GA7353@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48F21D58.3000404@colorfullife.com>

On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 05:52:56PM +0200, Manfred Spraul wrote:
> Paul E. McKenney wrote:
>> +/*
>> + * If the specified CPU is offline, tell the caller that it is in
>> + * a quiescent state.  Otherwise, whack it with a reschedule IPI.
>> + * Grace periods can end up waiting on an offline CPU when that
>> + * CPU is in the process of coming online -- it will be added to the
>> + * rcu_node bitmasks before it actually makes it online.  Because this
>> + * race is quite rare, we check for it after detecting that the grace
>> + * period has been delayed rather than checking each and every CPU
>> + * each and every time we start a new grace period.
>> + */
>
> What about using CPU_DYING and CPU_STARTING?
>
> Then this race wouldn't exist anymore.

Because I don't want to tie RCU too tightly to the details of the
online/offline implementation.  It is too easy for someone to make a
"simple" change and break things, especially given that the online/offline
code still seems to be adjusting a bit.

So I might well use CPU_DYING and CPU_STARTING, but I would still keep
the check offlined CPUs in the force_quiescent_state() processing.

>> +static void force_quiescent_state(struct rcu_state *rsp, int relaxed)
>> +{
>> + [snip]
>> +       case RCU_FORCE_QS:
>> +
>> +               /* Check dyntick-idle state, send IPI to laggarts. */
>> +               if (rcu_process_dyntick(rsp, 
>> dyntick_recall_completed(rsp),
>> +                                       rcu_implicit_dynticks_qs))
>> +                       goto unlock_ret;
>> +
>> +               /* Leave state in case more forcing is required. */
>> +
>> +               break;
>
> Hmm - your code must loop multiple times over the cpus.
> I've use a different approach: More forcing is only required for a nohz cpu 
> when it was hit within a long-running interrupt.
> Thus I've added a '->kick_poller' flag, rcu_irq_exit() reports back when 
> the long-running interrupt completes. Never more than one loop over the 
> outstanding cpus is required.

Do you send a reschedule IPI to CPUs that are not in dyntick idle mode,
but who have failed to pass through a quiescent state?

In my case, more forcing is required only for a nohz CPU in a long-running
interrupt (as with your approach), for sending the aforementioned IPI,
and for checking for offlined CPUs as noted above.

							Thanx, Paul

  reply	other threads:[~2008-10-12 22:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-21 23:43 [PATCH, RFC, tip/core/rcu] " Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-22  4:37 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-08-22 13:47   ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-22 17:22     ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-22 18:16       ` Josh Triplett
2008-08-23 16:07       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-08-24  2:44         ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-22 23:29 ` Josh Triplett
2008-08-23  1:53   ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-25 22:02     ` Josh Triplett
2008-08-26 16:05       ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-27  0:38         ` Josh Triplett
2008-08-27 18:34           ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-27 20:23             ` Josh Triplett
2008-08-27 20:41               ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-25 10:34   ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-25 15:16     ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-25 15:26       ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-27 18:28         ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-24  8:08 ` Manfred Spraul
2008-08-24 16:32   ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-24 18:25     ` Manfred Spraul
2008-08-24 21:19       ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-25  0:07 ` [PATCH, RFC, tip/core/rcu] v2 " Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-30  0:49   ` [PATCH, RFC, tip/core/rcu] v3 " Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-30  9:33     ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-30 14:10       ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-30 15:40         ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-30 19:38           ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-09-02 13:26           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-09-02 13:41             ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-09-02 14:55               ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-30  9:58     ` Lai Jiangshan
2008-08-30 13:32       ` Manfred Spraul
2008-08-30 14:34         ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-31 10:58           ` Manfred Spraul
2008-08-31 17:20             ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-31 17:45               ` Manfred Spraul
2008-08-31 17:55                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-31 18:18                   ` Manfred Spraul
2008-08-31 19:23                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-30 14:29       ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-09-01  9:38     ` Andi Kleen
2008-09-02  1:05       ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-09-02  6:18         ` Andi Kleen
2008-09-05 15:29     ` [PATCH, RFC] v4 " Paul E. McKenney
2008-09-05 19:33       ` Andrew Morton
2008-09-05 23:04         ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-09-05 23:52           ` Andrew Morton
2008-09-06  4:16             ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-09-06 16:37       ` Manfred Spraul
2008-09-07 17:25         ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-09-07 10:18       ` [RFC, PATCH] Add a CPU_STARTING notifier (was: Re: [PATCH, RFC] v4 scalable classic RCU implementation) Manfred Spraul
2008-09-07 11:07         ` Andi Kleen
2008-09-07 19:46         ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-09-15 16:02       ` [PATCH, RFC] v4 scalable classic RCU implementation Paul E. McKenney
2008-09-16 16:52         ` Manfred Spraul
2008-09-16 17:30           ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-09-16 17:48             ` Manfred Spraul
2008-09-16 18:22               ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-09-21 11:09               ` Manfred Spraul
2008-09-21 21:14                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-09-23 23:53         ` [PATCH, RFC] v6 " Paul E. McKenney
2008-09-25  7:26           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-09-25 14:05             ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-09-25  7:29           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-09-25 14:18             ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-10-10 16:09           ` [PATCH, RFC] v7 " Paul E. McKenney
2008-10-12 15:52             ` Manfred Spraul
2008-10-12 22:46               ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2008-10-13 18:03                 ` Manfred Spraul
2008-10-15  1:11                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-10-15  8:13                     ` Manfred Spraul
2008-10-15 15:26                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-10-22 18:41                         ` Manfred Spraul
2008-10-22 21:02                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-10-22 21:24                             ` Manfred Spraul
2008-10-27 16:45                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-10-27 19:48                                 ` Manfred Spraul
2008-10-27 23:52                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-10-28  5:30                                     ` Manfred Spraul
2008-10-28 15:17                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-10-28 17:21                                         ` Manfred Spraul
2008-10-28 17:35                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-10-17  8:34             ` Gautham R Shenoy
2008-10-17 15:35               ` Gautham R Shenoy
2008-10-17 15:46                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-10-17 15:43               ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-12-08 18:42               ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-11-02 20:10             ` Manfred Spraul
2008-11-03 20:33               ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-11-05 19:48                 ` Manfred Spraul
2008-11-05 21:27                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-11-15 23:20             ` [PATCH, RFC] v8 " Paul E. McKenney

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