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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Manfred Spraul <manfred@colorfullife.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, cl@linux-foundation.org,
	mingo@elte.hu, akpm@linux-foundation.org, dipankar@in.ibm.com,
	josht@linux.vnet.ibm.com, schamp@sgi.com, niv@us.ibm.com,
	dvhltc@us.ibm.com, ego@in.ibm.com, laijs@cn.fujitsu.com,
	rostedt@goodmis.org, peterz@infradead.org,
	penberg@cs.helsinki.fi, andi@firstfloor.org, tglx@linutronix.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH, RFC] v7 scalable classic RCU implementation
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 13:27:17 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081105212717.GA6692@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4911F872.8010400@colorfullife.com>

On Wed, Nov 05, 2008 at 08:48:02PM +0100, Manfred Spraul wrote:
> Paul E. McKenney wrote:
>>
>>> Attached is a hack that I use right now for myself.
>>> Btw - on my 4-cpu system, the average latency from call_rcu() to the rcu 
>>> callback is 4-5 milliseconds, (CONFIG_HZ_1000).
>>
>> Hmmm...  I would expect that if you have some CPUs in dyntick idle mode.
>> But if I run treercu on an CONFIG_HZ_250 8-CPU Power box, I see 2.5
>> jiffies per grace period if CPUs are kept out of dyntick idle mode, and
>> 4 jiffies per grace period if CPUs are allowed to enter dyntick idle mode.
>>
>> Alternatively, if you were testing with multiple concurrent
>> synchronize_rcu() invocations, you can also see longer grace-period
>> latencies due to the fact that a new synchronize_rcu() must wait for an
>> earlier grace period to complete before starting a new one.
>>   
> That's the reason why I decided to measure the real latency, from 
> call_rcu() to the final callback. It includes the delays for waiting until 
> the current grace period completes, until the softirq is scheduled, etc.

I believe that I get very close to the same effect by timing a call to
synchronize_rcu() in a kernel module.  Repeating measurements and
printing out cumulative statistics periodically reduces the heisenberg
effect.

> Probably one cpu was not in user space when the timer interrupt arrived.
> I'll continue to investigate that. Unfortunately, my first attempt failed: 
> adding too many printk's results in too much time spent within do_syslog(). 
> And then the timer interrupt always arrives on the spin_unlock_irqrestore 
> in do_syslog()....

;-)

							Thanx, Paul

  reply	other threads:[~2008-11-05 21:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-21 23:43 [PATCH, RFC, tip/core/rcu] " Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-22  4:37 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-08-22 13:47   ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-22 17:22     ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-22 18:16       ` Josh Triplett
2008-08-23 16:07       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-08-24  2:44         ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-22 23:29 ` Josh Triplett
2008-08-23  1:53   ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-25 22:02     ` Josh Triplett
2008-08-26 16:05       ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-27  0:38         ` Josh Triplett
2008-08-27 18:34           ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-27 20:23             ` Josh Triplett
2008-08-27 20:41               ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-25 10:34   ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-25 15:16     ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-25 15:26       ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-27 18:28         ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-24  8:08 ` Manfred Spraul
2008-08-24 16:32   ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-24 18:25     ` Manfred Spraul
2008-08-24 21:19       ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-25  0:07 ` [PATCH, RFC, tip/core/rcu] v2 " Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-30  0:49   ` [PATCH, RFC, tip/core/rcu] v3 " Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-30  9:33     ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-30 14:10       ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-30 15:40         ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-30 19:38           ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-09-02 13:26           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-09-02 13:41             ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-09-02 14:55               ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-30  9:58     ` Lai Jiangshan
2008-08-30 13:32       ` Manfred Spraul
2008-08-30 14:34         ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-31 10:58           ` Manfred Spraul
2008-08-31 17:20             ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-31 17:45               ` Manfred Spraul
2008-08-31 17:55                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-31 18:18                   ` Manfred Spraul
2008-08-31 19:23                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-30 14:29       ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-09-01  9:38     ` Andi Kleen
2008-09-02  1:05       ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-09-02  6:18         ` Andi Kleen
2008-09-05 15:29     ` [PATCH, RFC] v4 " Paul E. McKenney
2008-09-05 19:33       ` Andrew Morton
2008-09-05 23:04         ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-09-05 23:52           ` Andrew Morton
2008-09-06  4:16             ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-09-06 16:37       ` Manfred Spraul
2008-09-07 17:25         ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-09-07 10:18       ` [RFC, PATCH] Add a CPU_STARTING notifier (was: Re: [PATCH, RFC] v4 scalable classic RCU implementation) Manfred Spraul
2008-09-07 11:07         ` Andi Kleen
2008-09-07 19:46         ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-09-15 16:02       ` [PATCH, RFC] v4 scalable classic RCU implementation Paul E. McKenney
2008-09-16 16:52         ` Manfred Spraul
2008-09-16 17:30           ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-09-16 17:48             ` Manfred Spraul
2008-09-16 18:22               ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-09-21 11:09               ` Manfred Spraul
2008-09-21 21:14                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-09-23 23:53         ` [PATCH, RFC] v6 " Paul E. McKenney
2008-09-25  7:26           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-09-25 14:05             ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-09-25  7:29           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-09-25 14:18             ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-10-10 16:09           ` [PATCH, RFC] v7 " Paul E. McKenney
2008-10-12 15:52             ` Manfred Spraul
2008-10-12 22:46               ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-10-13 18:03                 ` Manfred Spraul
2008-10-15  1:11                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-10-15  8:13                     ` Manfred Spraul
2008-10-15 15:26                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-10-22 18:41                         ` Manfred Spraul
2008-10-22 21:02                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-10-22 21:24                             ` Manfred Spraul
2008-10-27 16:45                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-10-27 19:48                                 ` Manfred Spraul
2008-10-27 23:52                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-10-28  5:30                                     ` Manfred Spraul
2008-10-28 15:17                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-10-28 17:21                                         ` Manfred Spraul
2008-10-28 17:35                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-10-17  8:34             ` Gautham R Shenoy
2008-10-17 15:35               ` Gautham R Shenoy
2008-10-17 15:46                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-10-17 15:43               ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-12-08 18:42               ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-11-02 20:10             ` Manfred Spraul
2008-11-03 20:33               ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-11-05 19:48                 ` Manfred Spraul
2008-11-05 21:27                   ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2008-11-15 23:20             ` [PATCH, RFC] v8 " Paul E. McKenney

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