From: Adrian Bunk <bunk@kernel.org>
To: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 15:49:43 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081016124943.GE23630@cs181140183.pp.htv.fi> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081016002509.GA25868@kroah.com>
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 05:25:09PM -0700, Greg KH wrote:
> Hi,
Hi Greg,
>...
> Yes, we can handle the major/minor macros in the kernel to provide a
> compatible number so that automated scripts will not break, that's not a
> big deal.
>
> Any thoughts?
>...
how much of userspace breaks when we suddenly "just for fun" change the
version numbering scheme in a very radical way?
I'm not thinking of scripts for building the kernel.
I'm thinking of the fact that starting with glibc different pieces of
userspace software interpret the kernel version number they get from
various sources like e.g. <linux/version.h>, "uname -r" or an ioctl.
As a random example, the "config" script of OpenSSL 0.9.8g contains the
following:
<-- snip -->
...
RELEASE=`(uname -r) 2>/dev/null` || RELEASE="unknown"
...
case "${SYSTEM}:${RELEASE}:${VERSION}:${MACHINE}" in
...
Linux:[2-9].*)
echo "${MACHINE}-whatever-linux2"; exit 0
;;
Linux:1.*)
echo "${MACHINE}-whatever-linux1"; exit 0
;;
...
<-- snip -->
Change the version number of the kernel in the way you suggest, and
trying to build it will fail with:
<-- snip -->
$ ./config
Operating system: x86_64-whatever-Linux
This system (Linux) is not supported. See file INSTALL for details.
$
<-- snip -->
If a distribution will try to autobuild an urgent OpenSSL security
update for their stable release in a chroot on a machine running
kernel 2009.2.3 they will surely love you for being responsible
for this...
> thanks,
>
> greg k-h
cu
Adrian
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Thread overview: 113+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-10-16 0:25 Greg KH
2008-10-16 1:03 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-10-16 1:51 ` David Sanders
2008-10-16 2:18 ` Greg KH
2008-10-16 7:02 ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2008-10-16 7:34 ` david
2008-10-18 21:44 ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-10-19 1:52 ` david
2008-10-19 2:44 ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-10-16 8:21 ` el es
2008-10-16 9:09 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-10-16 9:33 ` el es
2008-10-16 10:05 ` el es
2008-10-16 10:14 ` Kristoffer Ericson
2008-10-16 17:30 ` david
2008-10-16 9:15 ` Hans J. Koch
2008-10-16 15:21 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2008-10-18 21:56 ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-10-16 12:49 ` Adrian Bunk [this message]
2008-10-16 15:17 ` Greg KH
2008-10-16 15:30 ` Bill Nottingham
2008-10-16 15:47 ` Greg KH
2008-10-16 17:16 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-10-17 4:02 ` Greg KH
2008-10-17 4:26 ` Grant Coady
2008-10-17 4:53 ` Randy Dunlap
2008-10-17 9:31 ` Alan Cox
2008-10-17 16:40 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-10-17 17:42 ` Greg KH
2008-10-18 7:18 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-10-18 7:38 ` 2.6.28-rc1 --> 2.8.0-rc1; 2.6.27.y --> 2.6.28 [Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change] Dominik Brodowski
2008-10-18 7:47 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2008-10-20 3:48 ` [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change Alexandre Oliva
2008-10-20 5:29 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-10-20 7:13 ` Alexandre Oliva
2008-10-20 18:55 ` Alex Howells
2008-10-20 20:21 ` Greg KH
2008-10-21 19:52 ` Alex Howells
2008-10-22 0:41 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-10-22 4:15 ` Grant Coady
2008-10-22 8:58 ` Alex Howells
2008-10-22 9:11 ` Alan Cox
2008-10-22 18:11 ` Stefan Richter
2008-10-21 18:54 ` Stefan Richter
2008-10-17 17:41 ` Greg KH
2008-10-17 19:45 ` Alan Cox
2008-10-17 21:42 ` Greg KH
2008-10-16 16:46 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-10-17 3:47 ` Greg KH
2008-10-17 6:47 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-10-17 7:55 ` Greg KH
2008-10-17 8:16 ` Steven Noonan
2008-10-17 17:46 ` Greg KH
2008-10-17 19:06 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-10-17 21:44 ` Greg KH
2008-10-17 19:47 ` Alan Cox
2008-10-17 21:44 ` Greg KH
2008-10-17 22:14 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2008-10-17 22:49 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-10-18 1:23 ` david
2008-10-18 23:14 ` Jiri Kosina
2008-10-19 1:50 ` david
2008-10-19 12:51 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-10-19 16:29 ` david
2008-10-19 17:45 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-10-19 17:47 ` david
2008-10-19 17:57 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-10-18 8:45 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-10-18 23:17 ` Jiri Kosina
2008-10-19 3:35 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-10-20 20:30 ` Greg KH
2008-10-20 20:54 ` Felipe Balbi
2008-10-20 21:06 ` Greg KH
2008-10-20 21:58 ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-10-20 22:24 ` Felipe Balbi
2008-10-21 19:11 ` Stefan Richter
2008-10-21 19:16 ` Felipe Balbi
2008-10-18 22:33 ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-10-19 18:33 ` Greg KH
2008-10-19 19:51 ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-10-19 23:40 ` david
2008-10-18 22:38 ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-10-18 1:20 ` david
2008-10-18 8:32 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-10-17 8:56 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-10-17 10:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-10-17 11:18 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2008-10-17 11:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-10-17 11:32 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2008-10-17 15:30 ` Chris Friesen
2008-10-17 17:45 ` Greg KH
2008-10-18 9:01 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-10-18 10:04 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-10-18 11:08 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-10-18 11:50 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-10-18 12:28 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-10-18 13:48 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-10-18 14:13 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-10-16 14:26 ` markus reichelt
2008-10-16 15:35 ` Theodore Tso
2008-10-16 18:05 ` John Stoffel
2008-10-16 19:14 ` Harald Arnesen
2008-10-17 1:53 ` Dave Young
2008-10-17 9:05 ` Jike Song
2008-10-17 9:14 ` Dave Young
2008-10-20 3:49 ` Daniel Phillips
2008-10-16 15:18 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2008-10-17 1:26 ` Rob Landley
2008-10-17 12:46 ` Giacomo A. Catenazzi
2008-10-17 17:40 ` Greg KH
2008-10-18 1:32 ` david
2008-10-16 2:10 H. Peter Anvin
2008-10-20 6:05 Denys Fedoryshchenko
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