From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Cc: Bernhard Walle <bwalle@suse.de>,
x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, crash-utility@redhat.com
Subject: Re: Turn CONFIG_STRICT_DEVMEM in sysctl dev.mem.restricted
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 16:09:05 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081116160905.17e867da@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081116080342.3d6c6976@infradead.org>
> because it can load kernel modules?
> or because it can bypass the iommu?
It has iopl, firmware loading, ioperm, raw disk I/O, mknod, module loading
etc etc..
> the point of the /dev/mem restrictions is to not allow things you know
> you don't need, while still allowing X to function where it can access
> the crap it does. Now in Bernhard's case he DOES need them, so he
> shouldn't use the restrictions.
I know what the point is, but it doesn't actually implement any
meaningful restriction to achieve that result, so it is worthless junk.
> > There are proper ways to deal with X, modern video cards and modern
> > security models. They involve using framebuffer mappings off the PCI
> > device node itself and DRI.
> >
> when X has this for all hw that matters /dev/mem could go away for the
> people who then no longer have any need for it.
Why should it go away ? It's a matter of file permissions and security
rules as to who can access it. Trying to make it go away is just more
fake-security crap.
Alan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-11-16 16:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-11-16 14:47 Bernhard Walle
2008-11-16 14:47 ` [PATCH 1/3] Unify devmem_is_allowed across architectures Bernhard Walle
2008-11-16 14:47 ` [PATCH 2/3] Add dev.mem.restricted sysctl Bernhard Walle
2008-11-16 15:07 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-11-16 14:47 ` [PATCH 3/3] Remove CONFIG_STRICT_DEVMEM Bernhard Walle
2008-11-16 15:09 ` Alan Cox
2008-11-16 15:21 ` Bernhard Walle
2008-11-16 15:46 ` Alan Cox
2008-11-17 13:57 ` David Howells
2008-11-16 15:07 ` Turn CONFIG_STRICT_DEVMEM in sysctl dev.mem.restricted Alan Cox
2008-11-16 15:20 ` Bernhard Walle
2008-11-16 15:45 ` Alan Cox
2008-11-16 16:03 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-11-16 16:09 ` Alan Cox [this message]
2008-11-16 16:19 ` Bernhard Walle
2008-11-16 16:11 ` Bernhard Walle
2008-11-16 17:03 ` Alan Cox
2008-11-16 15:39 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-11-16 15:56 ` Bernhard Walle
2008-11-16 16:06 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-11-16 20:32 ` H. Peter Anvin
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