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From: Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>
To: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>, Jan Beulich <jbeulich@novell.com>,
	ccache@lists.samba.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [REGRESSION] Recent change to kernel spikes out ccache/distcc
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 18:48:25 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090106174825.GA16365@uranus.ravnborg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090106173300.GA10903@mit.edu>

On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 12:33:00PM -0500, Theodore Tso wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 03:29:35PM +0000, Jan Beulich wrote:
> > >>> "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu> 06.01.09 16:15 >>>
> > >In the short term, though, it would be nice if we could get back a
> > >simple way of making a kernel  object file using just cc, so that ccache
> > >and distcc could be functional again.   Does that seem reasonable?
> > 
> > Making the new logic dependent on a config option would seem reasonable
> > to me - of course at the expense of the respective Makefile becoming
> > even less readable.
> 
> Too late.  :-) It's pretty unreadable already.... 

I'm all ears for inputs how to make them even a little more readable.
We actually used several iteratiosn of Jan's patch just to improve
readability in areas the patch touched.

I think at least half of the unreadability comes from the fact that
people do not realise the steps needed to actually build the kernel.

It is a little bit more involved than doing a simple sequence
of gcc; ld.

We have btw. 1140 Makefiles in the kernel of a total of 28000 lines.

Yes - exactly 28000 lines as reported by:
find -name 'Makefile*' | xargs cat | wc -l

But numbers aside - any inputs appreciated.

	Sam

  reply	other threads:[~2009-01-06 17:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-06 15:15 Theodore Ts'o
2009-01-06 15:29 ` Jan Beulich
2009-01-06 17:33   ` Theodore Tso
2009-01-06 17:48     ` Sam Ravnborg [this message]
2009-01-06 18:04       ` Theodore Tso
2009-01-07  8:50     ` Jan Beulich
2009-01-07 11:31       ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-01-07 12:35         ` Jan Beulich
2009-01-07 13:23           ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-01-07 13:48             ` Jan Beulich
2009-01-07 20:06               ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-01-08 19:16                 ` Kyle McMartin
2009-01-12 14:06                 ` Gilles Espinasse
2009-01-06 17:53   ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-01-06 16:26 ` David Miller
2009-01-06 18:12   ` Theodore Tso
2009-01-06 22:09 ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-01-07  4:33   ` Theodore Tso
2009-01-07  5:10 ` Al Viro
2009-01-07  8:49   ` Jan Beulich
2009-01-07 14:03     ` Al Viro
2009-01-07 14:28       ` Jan Beulich
2009-01-07 14:37         ` Al Viro
2009-01-07 14:40           ` Jan Beulich
2009-01-07 13:12 ` Theodore Tso
2009-01-07 13:39   ` Jan Beulich
2009-01-07 14:28     ` Theodore Tso
2009-01-07 14:39       ` Jan Beulich
2009-01-08 19:17   ` Dave Jones
2009-01-08 21:31     ` Theodore Tso
2009-01-11 21:48       ` Kyle McMartin
2009-01-11 22:11         ` Theodore Tso
2009-01-11 22:51         ` Theodore Tso
2009-01-11 22:55           ` Kyle McMartin
2009-01-14 17:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-01-15  9:11   ` Jan Beulich
2009-01-15 13:40     ` Theodore Tso

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