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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Cc: "Frédéric Weisbecker" <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	"Steven Rostedt" <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	"Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Maciej Rutecki" <maciej.rutecki@gmail.com>,
	"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [Linux 2.6.29-rc2] BUG: using smp_processor_id() in preemptible
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:35:19 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090126213519.GB13670@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200901262148.49717.rjw@sisk.pl>


* Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@sisk.pl> wrote:

> On Monday 26 January 2009, Ingo Molnar wrote:
[...]
> > It would work like this, you could mark IRQs as disabled 'permanently':
> > 
> >    force_irqs_off_start();
> >    ...
> >    force_irqs_off_end();
> > 
> > you could mark an arbitrarily complex code sequence that way, and ftrace 
> > would emit a WARN_ONCE() if irqs are enable anytime during that sequence - 
> > by using the irq-tracking facilities we have for the irqsoff tracer (and 
> > which we also have for lockdep).
> > 
> > Would that be useful?
> 
> Not sure, I only know a little about ftrace, I really can't judge.

The instrumentation is really simple, see kernel/tracing/trace_irqsoff.c:

we call this function if hardirqs are disabled anywhere in the kernel:

 static inline void
 start_critical_timing(unsigned long ip, unsigned long parent_ip)

and we call this function if hardirqs are enabled anywhere in the kernel:

 static inline void
 stop_critical_timing(unsigned long ip, unsigned long parent_ip)

that's all. You need a single line check in stop_critical_timing(), 
something like this:

   WARN_ON_ONCE(per_cpu(hardirqs_forced_off, this_cpu));

> Anyway, I think that putting the checks directly into the code path in 
> question would be more reliable and would still work without ftrace.

More reliable than a WARN() triggering right at the buggy place that 
erroneously enables IRQs? Regardless of how obscurely it's done - whether 
it's a side effect of something, etc. etc.?

With such a generic facility you'd not have to put in any explicit checks 
anywhere _at all_.

In fact whatever check you put in it's _always_ going to be fundamentally 
more fragile than direct instrumentation: you cannot possibly check all 
possible places that enable interrupts. (they could be disabling 
interrupts as a _restore_irqs() sequence for example)

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2009-01-26 21:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-17  8:58 Maciej Rutecki
2009-01-25  2:37 ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-25 11:57   ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-01-25 14:19   ` Maciej Rutecki
2009-01-25 16:30   ` Maciej Rutecki
2009-01-26 16:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-26 16:53   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-01-26 17:41     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 19:21       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-01-26 20:35         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 20:48           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-01-26 21:35             ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2009-01-27 15:28               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-01-27 15:49                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-27 21:18                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-01-29 15:07                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-29 22:29                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-01-30 14:06                         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-30 21:30                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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