From: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com,
Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com, Nikanth Karthikesan <knikanth@suse.de>,
containers@lists.linux-foundation.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Arve Hj?nnev?g <arve@android.com>,
Evgeniy Polyakov <zbr@ioremap.net>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Chris Snook <csnook@redhat.com>,
Linus@smtp1.linux-foundation.org, Paul Menage <menage@google.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] [PATCH] Cgroup based OOM killer controller
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:44:38 +0900 (JST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090127164238.D479.KOSAKI.MOTOHIRO@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.0901262325320.13157@chino.kir.corp.google.com>
> On Tue, 27 Jan 2009, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote:
>
> > Confused.
> >
> > As far as I know, people want the method of flexible cache treating.
> > but oom seems less flexible than userland notification.
> >
> > Why do you think notification is bad?
> >
>
> There're a couple of proposals that have been discussed recently that
> share some functional behavior.
>
> One is the cgroup oom notifier that allows you to attach a task to wait on
> an oom condition for a collection of tasks. That allows userspace to
> respond to the condition by droping caches, adding nodes to a cpuset,
> elevating memory controller limits, sending a signal, etc. It can also
> defer to the kernel oom killer as a last resort.
>
> The other is /dev/mem_notify that allows you to poll() on a device file
> and be informed of low memory events. This can include the cgroup oom
> notifier behavior when a collection of tasks is completely out of memory,
> but can also warn when such a condition may be imminent. I suggested that
> this be implemented as a client of cgroups so that different handlers can
> be responsible for different aggregates of tasks.
>
> I think the latter is a much more powerful tool and includes all the
> behavior of the former. It preserves the oom killer as a last resort for
> the kernel and defers all preference killing or lowmem responses to
> userspace.
Yup, indeed. :)
honestly, I talked about the same thingk recently "lowmemory android driver not needed?" thread.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-01-27 7:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-01-21 11:08 Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-21 13:17 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-21 15:24 ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-21 20:49 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-22 2:53 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-01-22 5:12 ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-22 5:12 ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-22 8:43 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-22 9:23 ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-22 9:39 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-22 10:10 ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-22 10:18 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-22 9:50 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-22 10:00 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-22 10:14 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-22 10:27 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-22 13:21 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-22 20:28 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-22 21:06 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-22 21:35 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-22 22:04 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-22 22:28 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-22 22:53 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-22 23:25 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-27 23:55 ` Paul Menage
2009-01-23 9:45 ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-23 10:33 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-23 14:56 ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-23 20:44 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-27 10:20 ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-27 10:53 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-27 11:08 ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-27 11:21 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-27 11:37 ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-27 20:29 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-28 1:00 ` Paul Menage
2009-01-29 15:48 ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-22 3:28 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-01-22 5:13 ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-22 5:27 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-01-22 6:11 ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-22 5:39 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-01-22 6:12 ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-22 6:29 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-01-22 6:42 ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-26 19:54 ` Balbir Singh
2009-01-26 19:56 ` Alan Cox
2009-01-27 7:02 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-01-27 7:26 ` Balbir Singh
2009-01-27 7:39 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-27 7:44 ` KOSAKI Motohiro [this message]
2009-01-27 7:51 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-27 9:31 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-27 9:37 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-27 13:40 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-27 20:37 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-27 21:51 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-27 10:40 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-01-27 13:45 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-27 15:40 ` Balbir Singh
2009-01-27 21:54 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-27 20:41 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-27 21:55 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
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