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From: Paul Menage <menage@google.com>
To: Evgeniy Polyakov <zbr@ioremap.net>
Cc: "David Rientjes" <rientjes@google.com>,
	"Nikanth Karthikesan" <knikanth@suse.de>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Alan Cox" <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Chris Snook" <csnook@redhat.com>,
	"Arve Hjønnevåg" <arve@android.com>,
	containers@lists.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] [PATCH] Cgroup based OOM killer controller
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:55:38 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6599ad830901271555m7ba2ec0ercb0f0d046d71a48a@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090122132133.GA17524@ioremap.net>

On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 5:21 AM, Evgeniy Polyakov <zbr@ioremap.net> wrote:
> Having userspace to decide which task to kill may not work in some cases
> at all (when task is swapped and we need to kill someone to get the mem
> to swap out the task, which will make that decision).

That's true in the case of a global OOM. In the case of a local OOM
(caused by memory limits applied via the cgroup memory controller, or
NUMA affinity enforcement applied by cpusets) the userspace handler
can be in a different domain which isn't OOM, and be quite capable of
figuring out who to kill. In our particular use case, it can happen
that a high-priority job hits its memory limits and triggers an OOM,
which causes the system controller daemon to kill some lower-priority
job and reassign some memory from that now-dead low-priority job (and
thus prevent the OOM from killing any process in the original cgroup).
This is something that would be very hard to express via kernel
policy.

Paul

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-01-27 23:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-21 11:08 Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-21 13:17 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-21 15:24   ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-21 20:49     ` David Rientjes
2009-01-22  2:53       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-01-22  5:12         ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-22  5:12       ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-22  8:43         ` David Rientjes
2009-01-22  9:23           ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-22  9:39             ` David Rientjes
2009-01-22 10:10               ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-22 10:18                 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-22  9:50           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-22 10:00             ` David Rientjes
2009-01-22 10:14               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-22 10:27                 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-22 13:21                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-22 20:28                     ` David Rientjes
2009-01-22 21:06                       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-22 21:35                         ` David Rientjes
2009-01-22 22:04                           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-22 22:28                             ` David Rientjes
2009-01-22 22:53                               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-22 23:25                                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-27 23:55                     ` Paul Menage [this message]
2009-01-23  9:45                   ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-23 10:33                     ` David Rientjes
2009-01-23 14:56                       ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-23 20:44                         ` David Rientjes
2009-01-27 10:20                           ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-27 10:53                             ` David Rientjes
2009-01-27 11:08                               ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-27 11:21                                 ` David Rientjes
2009-01-27 11:37                                   ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-27 20:29                                     ` David Rientjes
2009-01-28  1:00                         ` Paul Menage
2009-01-29 15:48                           ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-22  3:28 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-01-22  5:13   ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-22  5:27     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-01-22  6:11       ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-22  5:39     ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-01-22  6:12       ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-22  6:29         ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-01-22  6:42           ` Nikanth Karthikesan
2009-01-26 19:54 ` Balbir Singh
2009-01-26 19:56   ` Alan Cox
2009-01-27  7:02     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-01-27  7:26       ` Balbir Singh
2009-01-27  7:39       ` David Rientjes
2009-01-27  7:44         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-01-27  7:51           ` David Rientjes
2009-01-27  9:31             ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-27  9:37               ` David Rientjes
2009-01-27 13:40                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-27 20:37                   ` David Rientjes
2009-01-27 21:51                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-27 10:40               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-01-27 13:45                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-27 15:40                   ` Balbir Singh
2009-01-27 21:54                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-27 20:41                   ` David Rientjes
2009-01-27 21:55                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov

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