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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>
Cc: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	Justin Madru <jdm64@gawab.com>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Subject: Re: 2.6.30-rc1: invalid opcode with call trace
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 09:11:02 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090408071102.GB22868@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090408065352.GR5178@kernel.dk>


* Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 08 2009, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > 
> > * Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote:
> > 
> > > I too have an async hang/crash, on an old-style SCSI (aic7xxx) box 
> > > - hang log attached below.
> > > [...]
> > >
> > > ( Full bootlog attached below as well - i'm sending the config as a 
> > >   reply as this mail is close to lkml size limits already. )
> > 
> > Config attached.
> > 
> >  known bad  : v2.6.29-9854-gd508afb
> >  known good : v2.6.29
> > 
> > Suspected commit introducing the regression:
> > 
> >  9710794: async: remove the temporary (2.6.29) "async is off by default" code
> > 
> > (i'll now try a revert of this.)
> 
> That's what I figured was the culprit as well, but that does not 
> really tell us anything about what part of async.c is buggy :-)

async.c itself is likely not to be buggy - fundamental bugs that 
deep in the center of the kernel usually cannot hide for long :-)

What matters more is the _effects_ of having async bootup now, on 
various subsystems it interacts with. Unexpected parallelism and 
reordering between init sequences.

It would have been far better to not have such a 'flip the switch 
on' moment - but instead a more gradual step by step introduction of 
async bootup, with accompanied strong testing.

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2009-04-08  7:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-04-08  5:30 Justin Madru
2009-04-08  6:32 ` Jens Axboe
2009-04-08  6:47   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-08  6:52     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-08  6:53       ` Jens Axboe
2009-04-08  7:11         ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2009-04-08  7:15           ` Jens Axboe
2009-04-08  7:11         ` Justin Madru
2009-04-08  8:12       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-10  8:15       ` Heinz Diehl
2009-04-08  7:27     ` Vegard Nossum
2009-04-08  7:40       ` Jens Axboe
2009-04-08  7:48         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-08  7:56           ` Jens Axboe
2009-04-08 16:15           ` Vegard Nossum
2009-04-09 14:45             ` Cornelia Huck

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