From: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>
To: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: Andrea Righi <righi.andrea@gmail.com>,
randy.dunlap@oracle.com, Carl Henrik Lunde <chlunde@ping.uio.no>,
Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
eric.rannaud@gmail.com, Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
fernando@oss.ntt.co.jp, dradford@bluehost.com,
Gui@smtp1.linux-foundation.org, agk@sourceware.org,
subrata@linux.vnet.ibm.com, Paul Menage <menage@google.com>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, containers@lists.linux-foundation.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
matt@bluehost.com, roberto@unbit.it, ngupta@google.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 9/9] ext3: do not throttle metadata and journal IO
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 21:22:54 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090423012254.GZ15541@mit.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090423090535.ec419269.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 09:05:35AM +0900, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
> So, current status is.
>
> A. memcg should support dirty_ratio for its own memory reclaim.
> in plan.
>
> B. another cgroup can be implemnted to support cgroup_dirty_limit().
> But relationship with "A" should be discussed.
> no plan yet.
>
> C. I/O cgroup and bufferred I/O tracking system.
> Now under patch review.
>
> And this I/O throttle is mainly for "C" discussion.
How much testing has been done in terms of whether the I/O throttling
actually works? Not just, "the kernel doesn't crash", but that where
you have one process generating a large amount of I/O load, in various
different ways, and whether the right things happens? If so, how has
this been measured?
I'm really concerned that given some of the ways that I/O will "leak"
out --- the via pdflush, swap writeout, etc., that without the rest of
the pieces in place, I/O throttling by itself might not prove to be
very effective. Sure, if the workload is only doing direct I/O, life
is pretty easy and it shouldn't be hard to throttle the cgroup.
But in the case where there is bufferred I/O, without write
throttling, it's hard to see how well the I/O controller will work in
practice. In fact, I wouldn't be that surprised if it's possible to
trigger the OOM killer.......
Regards,
- Ted
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-04-23 1:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-04-14 20:21 [PATCH 0/9] cgroup: io-throttle controller (v13) Andrea Righi
2009-04-14 20:21 ` [PATCH 1/9] io-throttle documentation Andrea Righi
2009-04-17 1:24 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-04-17 1:56 ` Li Zefan
2009-04-17 10:25 ` Andrea Righi
2009-04-17 10:41 ` Andrea Righi
2009-04-17 11:35 ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-04-20 9:38 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-04-20 15:00 ` Andrea Righi
2009-04-27 10:45 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-04-27 12:15 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-04-27 21:56 ` Andrea Righi
2009-04-17 7:34 ` Gui Jianfeng
2009-04-17 7:43 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-04-17 9:29 ` Gui Jianfeng
2009-04-17 9:55 ` Andrea Righi
2009-04-17 17:39 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-04-17 23:12 ` Andrea Righi
2009-04-19 13:42 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-04-19 15:47 ` Andrea Righi
2009-04-20 21:28 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-04-20 22:05 ` Andrea Righi
2009-04-21 1:08 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-04-21 8:37 ` Andrea Righi
2009-04-21 14:23 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-04-21 18:29 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-04-21 21:36 ` Andrea Righi
2009-04-21 21:28 ` Andrea Righi
2009-04-19 13:54 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-04-14 20:21 ` [PATCH 2/9] res_counter: introduce ratelimiting attributes Andrea Righi
2009-04-14 20:21 ` [PATCH 3/9] bio-cgroup controller Andrea Righi
2009-04-15 2:15 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-04-15 9:37 ` Andrea Righi
2009-04-15 12:38 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-04-15 13:23 ` Andrea Righi
2009-04-15 23:58 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-04-16 10:42 ` Andrea Righi
2009-04-16 12:00 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-04-17 0:04 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-04-17 9:44 ` Andrea Righi
2009-04-15 13:07 ` Andrea Righi
2009-04-16 22:29 ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-17 0:20 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-04-17 0:44 ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-17 1:44 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-04-17 4:15 ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-17 7:48 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-04-17 1:50 ` Balbir Singh
2009-04-17 9:40 ` Andrea Righi
2009-04-17 1:49 ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2009-04-17 2:24 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-04-17 7:22 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-04-17 8:00 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-04-17 8:48 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-04-17 8:51 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-04-17 11:27 ` Block I/O tracking (was Re: [PATCH 3/9] bio-cgroup controller) Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-04-17 22:09 ` Andrea Righi
2009-04-17 7:32 ` [PATCH 3/9] bio-cgroup controller Ryo Tsuruta
2009-04-17 10:22 ` Balbir Singh
2009-04-20 11:35 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-04-20 14:56 ` Andrea Righi
2009-04-21 11:39 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-04-21 15:31 ` Balbir Singh
2009-04-14 20:21 ` [PATCH 4/9] support checking of cgroup subsystem dependencies Andrea Righi
2009-04-14 20:21 ` [PATCH 5/9] io-throttle controller infrastructure Andrea Righi
2009-04-14 20:21 ` [PATCH 6/9] kiothrottled: throttle buffered (writeback) IO Andrea Righi
2009-04-14 20:21 ` [PATCH 7/9] io-throttle instrumentation Andrea Righi
2009-04-14 20:21 ` [PATCH 8/9] export per-task io-throttle statistics to userspace Andrea Righi
2009-04-14 20:21 ` [PATCH 9/9] ext3: do not throttle metadata and journal IO Andrea Righi
2009-04-17 12:38 ` Theodore Tso
2009-04-17 12:50 ` Jens Axboe
2009-04-17 14:39 ` Andrea Righi
2009-04-21 0:18 ` Theodore Tso
2009-04-21 8:30 ` Andrea Righi
2009-04-21 14:06 ` Theodore Tso
2009-04-21 14:31 ` Andrea Righi
2009-04-21 16:35 ` Theodore Tso
2009-04-21 17:23 ` Balbir Singh
2009-04-21 17:46 ` Theodore Tso
2009-04-21 18:14 ` Balbir Singh
2009-04-21 19:14 ` Theodore Tso
2009-04-21 20:49 ` Andrea Righi
2009-04-22 0:33 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-04-22 1:21 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-04-22 10:22 ` Andrea Righi
2009-04-23 0:05 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-04-23 1:22 ` Theodore Tso [this message]
2009-04-23 2:54 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-04-23 4:35 ` Theodore Tso
2009-04-23 4:58 ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-23 5:37 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-04-23 9:44 ` Andrea Righi
2009-04-23 12:17 ` Theodore Tso
2009-04-23 12:27 ` Theodore Tso
2009-04-23 21:13 ` Andrea Righi
2009-04-24 0:26 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-04-24 5:14 ` Balbir Singh
2009-04-23 10:03 ` Andrea Righi
2009-04-22 3:30 ` Balbir Singh
2009-04-24 15:10 ` Balbir Singh
2009-04-16 22:24 ` [PATCH 0/9] cgroup: io-throttle controller (v13) Andrew Morton
2009-04-17 9:37 ` Andrea Righi
2009-04-30 13:20 ` Alan D. Brunelle
2009-05-01 11:11 ` Andrea Righi
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