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From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>
Cc: "David P. Quigley" <dpquigl@tycho.nsa.gov>,
	Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>,
	Jan Blunck <jblunck@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [patch 00/13] devtmpfs patches
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 22:19:47 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090511221947.50eda8d5@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ac3eb2510905111405y5541117euf84dd38d39012bd0@mail.gmail.com>

> By doing its own fstype, we could also make the auto-mount optional,
> because you could always reach the filesystem anytime later.

Killing the automount would also fix a lot of the other problems as you
can then mount it in the initrd and dump it when you have the real fs up,
or you can mount it privately thanks to Al Viro's magic with mount points
and only the daemon that must make the "real" device file system need
have it mounted and accessible.

> A different fstype has the slight inconvenience, that existing
> userspace needs to be taught to handle it explicitly, while a tmfps is
> already handled automatically because we use tmpfs already today. But
> that may not be too important.

Thats a good thing - it stops some of the suprise behaviour the Eric
pointed out and objected to.

> Thanks a lot for your tests and analysis,

And I think btw the underlying failure was in the tty layer - I just need
to find it. It's the second report vaguely of this form so something is
lurking in the stygian depths.

Alan

  reply	other threads:[~2009-05-11 21:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20090509142601.874865281@blue.kroah.org>
2009-05-09 14:37 ` Greg KH
2009-05-09 14:26   ` [patch 01/13] Driver Core: add nodename callbacks Greg KH
2009-05-10 12:52     ` Stephen Rothwell
2009-05-10 13:19       ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-11 20:51         ` Greg KH
2009-05-09 14:26   ` [patch 02/13] Driver Core: misc: add nodename support for misc devices Greg KH
2009-05-15 19:58     ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-18 14:34       ` Greg KH
2009-05-18 19:59         ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-18 20:28       ` Alan Cox
2009-05-09 14:26   ` [patch 03/13] Driver Core: usb: add nodename support for usb drivers Greg KH
2009-05-09 14:26   ` [patch 04/13] Driver Core: block: add nodename support for block drivers Greg KH
2009-05-09 14:26   ` [patch 05/13] Driver Core: x86: add nodename for cpuid and msr drivers Greg KH
2009-05-09 14:26   ` [patch 06/13] Driver Core: dvb: add nodename for dvb drivers Greg KH
2009-05-09 14:26   ` [patch 07/13] Driver Core: input: add nodename for input drivers Greg KH
2009-05-09 14:26   ` [patch 08/13] Driver Core: sound: add nodename for sound drivers Greg KH
2009-05-09 14:26   ` [patch 09/13] Driver Core: raw: add nodename for raw devices Greg KH
2009-05-09 14:26   ` [patch 10/13] Driver Core: drm: add nodename for drm devices Greg KH
2009-05-09 14:26   ` [patch 11/13] Driver Core: aoe: add nodename for aoe devices Greg KH
2009-05-09 14:26   ` [patch 12/13] Driver Core: bsg: add nodename for bsg driver Greg KH
2009-05-09 14:26   ` [patch 13/13] Driver Core: devtmpfs - driver core maintained /dev tmpfs Greg KH
2009-05-09 15:10   ` [patch 00/13] devtmpfs patches Fabio Comolli
2009-05-09 15:08     ` Greg KH
2009-05-09 15:22       ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-05-09 16:19         ` Greg KH
2009-05-09 19:09           ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-05-10  4:34           ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-05-10  7:48             ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-10 14:56               ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-10  5:34           ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-10 15:20             ` Greg KH
2009-05-10 15:59               ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-05-10 18:31               ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-10 21:19                 ` Alan Cox
2009-05-10 23:47                   ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-11  0:00                     ` Arjan van de Ven
     [not found]                       ` <ac3eb2510905101822t7fde14b3nf2c689621f69c925@mail.gmail.com>
2009-05-11  2:36                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-11 10:46                           ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-11 10:55                             ` Alan Cox
2009-05-11 11:34                               ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-11 13:05                                 ` [patch 00/13] devtmpfs Arjan van de Ven
2009-05-11 13:28                                   ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-11 13:49                                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-05-11 14:59                                       ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-11 13:10                                 ` [patch 00/13] devtmpfs patches Alan Cox
2009-05-11 14:14                                   ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-11 14:30                                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-05-11 14:42                                       ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-11 15:53                                     ` Alan Cox
2009-05-11 16:28                                       ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-11 16:41                                         ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-05-11 17:32                                           ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-11 17:55                                             ` Alan Cox
2009-05-11 18:04                                               ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-11 18:40                                                 ` Alan Cox
2009-05-11 16:56                                         ` Alan Cox
2009-05-11 18:13                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-11  3:55                         ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-05-11 11:49                         ` Fabio Comolli
2009-05-11 17:47                           ` Greg KH
2009-05-11 16:40                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-11 17:16                           ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-11 21:13                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-11  1:00                     ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-11  3:58                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-05-11 17:45                       ` Greg KH
2009-05-09 16:46         ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-09 17:11           ` Alan Cox
2009-05-09 18:09             ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-11 17:40   ` David P. Quigley
2009-05-11 17:56     ` Greg KH
2009-05-11 20:41       ` David P. Quigley
2009-05-11 21:05         ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-11 21:19           ` Alan Cox [this message]
2009-05-11 21:27             ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-12 12:45           ` Stephen Smalley
2009-05-12 15:10             ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-12 15:35               ` Stephen Smalley
2009-05-12 15:54                 ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-12 22:55                   ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-12 23:22                     ` David P. Quigley
2009-05-12 23:34                       ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-12 23:50                         ` Greg KH
2009-05-13 12:22                     ` Stephen Smalley
2009-05-13 12:58                       ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-13 12:57                         ` Stephen Smalley
2009-05-13 13:09                           ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-13 12:59                       ` Alan Cox
2009-05-13 13:20                   ` David Howells
2009-05-13 13:34                     ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-13 14:20                       ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-13 14:35                         ` Stephen Smalley
2009-05-13 16:45                           ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-13 22:43                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-13 23:10                               ` Greg KH

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