From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Nigel Cunningham <nigel@tuxonice.net>
Cc: Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <bzolnier@gmail.com>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org,
tuxonice-devel@lists.tuxonice.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [TuxOnIce-devel] [RFC] TuxOnIce
Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 14:32:28 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090525123228.GA13446@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1243243666.16743.64.camel@nigel-laptop>
On Mon 2009-05-25 19:27:46, Nigel Cunningham wrote:
> Hi.
>
> On Sat, 2009-05-09 at 15:58 +0200, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > > > Instead of new features I would rather see more effort being put into making
> > > > the _core_ TuxOnIce (I mean patch #8 here) smaller (8 KLOC is still a lot,
> > > > just to put things into the right perspective the current in-kernel content
> > > > of kernel/power/ is 5.5 KLOC) and with more documentation inside the code.
> > >
> > > Yeah, but those 2.5k extra lines get you more reliability and extra
> > > functionality. They're not fat.
> >
> > If you know about reliability problems in swsusp, please fix them in
> > separate patch. Hiding the fixes in 8KLOC patch is not nice.
>
> I'm going to try to. Unfortunately, they'll require what's basically a
> group-up redesign of the basic algorithm, because to get maximum
> reliability, you need to carefully account for the amount of storage
> you're going to need and the amount of memory you have available, and
> 'prepare' the image prior to doing the atomic copy.
I don't quite get it; why is that needed?
If there's not enough swap available, swsusp should freeze, realize
there's no swap, unfreeze and continue. I do not see reliability
problem there.
If there are some problems like "it crashes during suspend or resume"
or "suspend succeeds but fails to resume", we'd like to fix those with
priority...
Pavel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-05-25 12:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 141+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-05-06 14:38 Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:38 ` [PATCH 1/19] TuxOnIce: Documentation Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-16 20:10 ` Vegard Nossum
2009-05-16 22:18 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:38 ` [PATCH 2/19] TuxOnIce: GEMS support Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:38 ` [PATCH 3/19] TuxOnIce: Make drop_pagecache non-static and declared in mm.h Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` [PATCH 4/19] TuxOnIce: Add support for just thawing kernel threads Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` [PATCH 5/19] TuxOnIce: Create means of determining how many pages can be allocated Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` [PATCH 6/19] TuxOnIce: Make functions and variables shared with swsusp non-static Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` [PATCH 7/19] TuxOnIce: Modify swsusp bitmaps to allow modification during scanning Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` [PATCH 8/19] TuxOnIce: Add core TuxOnIce code Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` [PATCH 9/19] TuxOnIce: Netlink support Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 21:03 ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-05-06 21:35 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-07 4:34 ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-05-06 14:39 ` [PATCH 10/19] TuxOnIce: Storage manager support Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` [PATCH 11/19] TuxOnIce: Block I/O engine Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` [PATCH 12/19] TuxOnIce: Compression support Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` [PATCH 13/19] TuxOnIce: File allocator Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` [PATCH 14/19] TuxOnIce: Swap support Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` [PATCH 15/19] TuxOnIce: Userspace user interface support Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` [PATCH 16/19] TuxOnIce: Warn user if an initrd doesn't include an attempt at resuming Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` [PATCH 17/19] TuxOnIce: Support for replacing swsusp Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` [PATCH 18/19] TuxOnIce: Provide a means of determining the freezer state Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` [PATCH 19/19] TuxOnIce: Don't try to wake kswapd if the freezer is on Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-07 12:09 ` [RFC] TuxOnIce Pavel Machek
2009-05-07 15:28 ` [TuxOnIce-devel] " Kenneth Crudup
2009-05-07 17:05 ` Kenneth Crudup
2009-05-09 9:10 ` Stefan Richter
2009-05-10 5:37 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-10 5:37 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-07 16:55 ` U Kuehn
2009-05-07 17:45 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 17:49 ` Kenneth Crudup
2009-05-07 18:54 ` Fabio Comolli
2009-05-07 18:57 ` Kenneth Crudup
2009-05-07 17:52 ` Matt Price
2009-05-07 18:22 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 18:57 ` Fabio Comolli
2009-05-07 19:27 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 20:41 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-07 23:14 ` Jesse Barnes
2009-05-07 23:32 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-07 23:43 ` Jesse Barnes
2009-05-08 0:13 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-08 0:39 ` Jesse Barnes
2009-05-08 0:49 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-08 0:18 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 21:46 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-08 7:11 ` Fabio Comolli
2009-05-07 21:42 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-08 0:11 ` Alex Goebel
2009-05-07 17:42 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 20:37 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-07 21:51 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-08 1:34 ` [TuxOnIce-devel] " Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-08 14:11 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-08 21:52 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-08 22:46 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-08 23:30 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-08 23:43 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-25 10:05 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-25 12:43 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-25 13:15 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-25 21:43 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] ` <1243288705.16743.129.camel@nigel-laptop>
2009-05-25 22:39 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-26 0:39 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-26 22:27 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-27 0:02 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-27 18:26 ` [linux-pm] " Len Brown
2009-05-25 22:45 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-05-25 22:58 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-25 23:13 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-05-27 14:38 ` Martin Steigerwald
2009-05-26 0:42 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-26 9:19 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-26 11:07 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-05-26 21:33 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-26 21:56 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2009-05-26 22:24 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-05-27 0:00 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-26 23:59 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-26 21:36 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-26 21:29 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-26 22:51 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-05-26 23:10 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-26 0:42 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-08 23:44 ` Ray Lee
2009-05-27 19:10 ` Len Brown
2009-05-27 23:43 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-09 13:54 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-25 9:53 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-25 22:02 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-26 0:19 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-26 22:37 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-27 0:06 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-28 11:50 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-09 13:27 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-09 19:32 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-09 22:22 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-14 9:16 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-16 23:11 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-09 13:03 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-08 19:44 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-05-08 21:03 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-08 22:37 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-08 21:59 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-08 23:05 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-05-08 23:15 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-09 13:58 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-25 9:27 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-25 12:32 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2009-05-25 13:22 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-05-25 13:26 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-25 21:50 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-25 21:39 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-25 22:29 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-05-26 0:28 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-26 0:35 ` david
2009-05-26 0:47 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-26 8:43 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-26 10:56 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-05-09 11:12 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-05-07 22:37 ` trekker.dk
2009-05-08 1:17 ` Shannon McMackin
2009-05-08 21:47 ` Fabio Comolli
2009-05-10 5:38 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-11 20:10 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2009-05-10 5:38 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-11 21:19 ` trekker.dk
2009-05-11 21:23 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-13 20:19 ` trekker.dk
2009-05-13 20:24 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-13 22:07 ` trekker.dk
2009-05-11 23:23 ` Alex Goebel
2009-05-16 19:07 ` Martin Steigerwald
2009-05-17 2:53 ` Matt Price
2009-05-17 3:06 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-17 3:24 ` Matt Price
2009-05-17 3:57 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-05-17 5:02 ` Nigel Cunningham
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