From: Oliver Neukum <oliver@neukum.org>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Cc: nigel@tuxonice.net, linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org,
tuxonice-devel@lists.tuxonice.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Subject: Re: [TuxOnIce-devel] [RFC] TuxOnIce
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 01:13:46 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200905260113.46440.oliver@neukum.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200905260058.54482.rjw@sisk.pl>
Am Dienstag, 26. Mai 2009 00:58:53 schrieb Rafael J. Wysocki:
> On Tuesday 26 May 2009, Oliver Neukum wrote:
> > No, I am afraid it is not. The average user has no clue. Even if that
> > is not the problem, the user never knows for sure he has encountered
> > the worst case.
>
> OK there, but surely it's better to have a sysfs attribute than a fixed
> value?
Why? The driver knows best. Tunables are generally the worst solution.
> > If you really have drivers that have exceptionally large memory
> > requirements (eg. you need to copy video ram), you should tell the system
> > through struct driver and do accounting at probe and removal of devices.
>
> Or perhaps the drivers should allocate memory from a PM notifier (which is
> called before the freezing of tasks) to avoid the problem?
That's also possible. It is slightly more wasteful, as you are required
to actually the memory. If you tell the core, it is sufficient that the memory
can be freed without a device driver becoming involved, that is the page
must be cleaned but doesn't have to be dropped.
Regards
Oliver
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-05-25 23:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 141+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-05-06 14:38 Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:38 ` [PATCH 1/19] TuxOnIce: Documentation Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-16 20:10 ` Vegard Nossum
2009-05-16 22:18 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:38 ` [PATCH 2/19] TuxOnIce: GEMS support Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:38 ` [PATCH 3/19] TuxOnIce: Make drop_pagecache non-static and declared in mm.h Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` [PATCH 4/19] TuxOnIce: Add support for just thawing kernel threads Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` [PATCH 5/19] TuxOnIce: Create means of determining how many pages can be allocated Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` [PATCH 6/19] TuxOnIce: Make functions and variables shared with swsusp non-static Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` [PATCH 7/19] TuxOnIce: Modify swsusp bitmaps to allow modification during scanning Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` [PATCH 8/19] TuxOnIce: Add core TuxOnIce code Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` [PATCH 9/19] TuxOnIce: Netlink support Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 21:03 ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-05-06 21:35 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-07 4:34 ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-05-06 14:39 ` [PATCH 10/19] TuxOnIce: Storage manager support Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` [PATCH 11/19] TuxOnIce: Block I/O engine Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` [PATCH 12/19] TuxOnIce: Compression support Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` [PATCH 13/19] TuxOnIce: File allocator Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` [PATCH 14/19] TuxOnIce: Swap support Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` [PATCH 15/19] TuxOnIce: Userspace user interface support Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` [PATCH 16/19] TuxOnIce: Warn user if an initrd doesn't include an attempt at resuming Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` [PATCH 17/19] TuxOnIce: Support for replacing swsusp Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` [PATCH 18/19] TuxOnIce: Provide a means of determining the freezer state Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` [PATCH 19/19] TuxOnIce: Don't try to wake kswapd if the freezer is on Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-07 12:09 ` [RFC] TuxOnIce Pavel Machek
2009-05-07 15:28 ` [TuxOnIce-devel] " Kenneth Crudup
2009-05-07 17:05 ` Kenneth Crudup
2009-05-09 9:10 ` Stefan Richter
2009-05-10 5:37 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-10 5:37 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-07 16:55 ` U Kuehn
2009-05-07 17:45 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 17:49 ` Kenneth Crudup
2009-05-07 18:54 ` Fabio Comolli
2009-05-07 18:57 ` Kenneth Crudup
2009-05-07 17:52 ` Matt Price
2009-05-07 18:22 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 18:57 ` Fabio Comolli
2009-05-07 19:27 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 20:41 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-07 23:14 ` Jesse Barnes
2009-05-07 23:32 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-07 23:43 ` Jesse Barnes
2009-05-08 0:13 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-08 0:39 ` Jesse Barnes
2009-05-08 0:49 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-08 0:18 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 21:46 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-08 7:11 ` Fabio Comolli
2009-05-07 21:42 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-08 0:11 ` Alex Goebel
2009-05-07 17:42 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 20:37 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-07 21:51 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-08 1:34 ` [TuxOnIce-devel] " Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-08 14:11 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-08 21:52 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-08 22:46 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-08 23:30 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-08 23:43 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-25 10:05 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-25 12:43 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-25 13:15 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-25 21:43 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] ` <1243288705.16743.129.camel@nigel-laptop>
2009-05-25 22:39 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-26 0:39 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-26 22:27 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-27 0:02 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-27 18:26 ` [linux-pm] " Len Brown
2009-05-25 22:45 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-05-25 22:58 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-25 23:13 ` Oliver Neukum [this message]
2009-05-27 14:38 ` Martin Steigerwald
2009-05-26 0:42 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-26 9:19 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-26 11:07 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-05-26 21:33 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-26 21:56 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2009-05-26 22:24 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-05-27 0:00 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-26 23:59 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-26 21:36 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-26 21:29 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-26 22:51 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-05-26 23:10 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-26 0:42 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-08 23:44 ` Ray Lee
2009-05-27 19:10 ` Len Brown
2009-05-27 23:43 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-09 13:54 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-25 9:53 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-25 22:02 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-26 0:19 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-26 22:37 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-27 0:06 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-28 11:50 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-09 13:27 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-09 19:32 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-09 22:22 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-14 9:16 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-16 23:11 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-09 13:03 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-08 19:44 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-05-08 21:03 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-08 22:37 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-08 21:59 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-08 23:05 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-05-08 23:15 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-09 13:58 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-25 9:27 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-25 12:32 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-25 13:22 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-05-25 13:26 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-25 21:50 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-25 21:39 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-25 22:29 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-05-26 0:28 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-26 0:35 ` david
2009-05-26 0:47 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-26 8:43 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-26 10:56 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-05-09 11:12 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-05-07 22:37 ` trekker.dk
2009-05-08 1:17 ` Shannon McMackin
2009-05-08 21:47 ` Fabio Comolli
2009-05-10 5:38 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-11 20:10 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2009-05-10 5:38 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-11 21:19 ` trekker.dk
2009-05-11 21:23 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-13 20:19 ` trekker.dk
2009-05-13 20:24 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-13 22:07 ` trekker.dk
2009-05-11 23:23 ` Alex Goebel
2009-05-16 19:07 ` Martin Steigerwald
2009-05-17 2:53 ` Matt Price
2009-05-17 3:06 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-17 3:24 ` Matt Price
2009-05-17 3:57 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-05-17 5:02 ` Nigel Cunningham
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