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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Eric Paris <eparis@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, selinux@tycho.nsa.gov,
	sds@tycho.nsa.gov, jmorris@namei.org, spender@grsecurity.net,
	dwalsh@redhat.com, cl@linux-foundation.org, arjan@infradead.org,
	alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk
Subject: Re: mmap_min_addr and your local LSM (ok, just SELinux)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 11:06:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090730090645.GB1364@ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1248132223.2654.278.camel@localhost>

Hi!

> Brad Spengler recently pointed out that the SELinux decision on how to
> handle mmap_min_addr in some ways weakens system security vs on a system
> without SELinux (and in other ways can be stronger).  There is a trade
> off and a reason I did what I did but I would like ideas and discussion
> on how to get the best of both worlds.
> 
> With SELinux mapping the 0 page requires an SELinux policy permission,
> mmap_zero.  Without SELinux mapping the 0 page requires CAP_SYS_RAWIO.
> Note that CAP_SYS_RAWIO roughly translates to uid=0 since noone really
> does interesting things with capabilities.

I wonder if cap_sys_rawio is right capability for this..? rawio
normally grants you kernel-llevel access, so you don't want to give it
to wine. But maybe if it checked cap_sys_nice or some new capability,
we could reasonably give that to wine, and problem would be gone?

cap_sys_obscure_features ?

(I guess vm86 mode should fall under that, too :-)

-- 
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      parent reply	other threads:[~2009-08-02 12:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-07-20 23:23 Eric Paris
2009-07-21  0:14 ` Christopher Pardy
2009-07-21 13:41   ` Daniel J Walsh
2009-07-21  3:45 ` James Morris
2009-07-21 14:44   ` James Carter
2009-07-22 10:06     ` James Morris
2009-07-28  0:19       ` Alan Cox
2009-07-28  3:28         ` Kyle Moffett
2009-07-28  9:21         ` Andi Kleen
2009-07-28 10:00           ` Alan Cox
2009-07-28 11:21             ` Andi Kleen
2009-07-28 13:35               ` Brad Spengler
2009-07-28 14:48                 ` Andi Kleen
2009-07-28 15:56           ` Kees Cook
2009-07-28 16:23             ` Andi Kleen
2009-07-21  3:48 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-07-21 11:51   ` Brad Spengler
2009-07-21  4:13 ` Kyle McMartin
2009-07-21 11:31   ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-07-30  9:06 ` Pavel Machek [this message]

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