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From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
To: Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	chris.mason@oracle.com, david@fromorbit.com, hch@infradead.org,
	tytso@mit.edu, akpm@linux-foundation.org, jack@suse.cz
Subject: Re: [PATCH 8/8] vm: Add an tuning knob for vm.max_writeback_mb
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 21:09:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090907190917.GC29103@duck.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1252050406-22467-9-git-send-email-jens.axboe@oracle.com>

On Fri 04-09-09 09:46:46, Jens Axboe wrote:
> From: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>
> 
> Originally, MAX_WRITEBACK_PAGES was hard-coded to 1024 because of a
> concern of not holding I_SYNC for too long.  (At least, that was the
> comment previously.)  This doesn't make sense now because the only
> time we wait for I_SYNC is if we are calling sync or fsync, and in
> that case we need to write out all of the data anyway.  Previously
> there may have been other code paths that waited on I_SYNC, but not
> any more.
  Well, I've always though that MAX_WRITEBACK_PAGES is there because
of a situation when a thread is forced to throttle on a BDI and
we'd like pdflush to yield to this thread so that it can do its duty
(otherwise it may be basically forced to wait until pdflush writes
enough for a system to drop below dirty_limit instead of writing
just sync_writeback_pages()).
  What also seemed suboptimal to me (on a simple SATA drive) is that
this writeout from a throttled thread is interleaved with a writeout
from pdflush when there are more dirty inodes. So what we might
want to do once we have more threads per-bdi and thus won't hit CPU
bottleneck on high-end storage is that we'd leave writeout completely
to per-BDI threads and just make throttled thread wait until enough
IO is done on the BDI....

> According to Christoph, the current writeback size is way too small,
> and XFS had a hack that bumped out nr_to_write to four times the value
> sent by the VM to be able to saturate medium-sized RAID arrays.  This
> value was also problematic for ext4 as well, as it caused large files
> to be come interleaved on disk by in 8 megabyte chunks (we bumped up
> the nr_to_write by a factor of two).
> 
> So, in this patch, we make the MAX_WRITEBACK_PAGES a tunable,
> max_writeback_mb, and set it to a default value of 128 megabytes.
> 
> http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13930
> 
> Signed-off-by: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
> Signed-off-by: Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>

								Honza
-- 
Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
SUSE Labs, CR

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-09-07 19:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-09-04  7:46 [PATCH 0/8] Per-bdi writeback flusher threads v18 Jens Axboe
2009-09-04  7:46 ` [PATCH 1/8] writeback: get rid of generic_sync_sb_inodes() export Jens Axboe
2009-09-04  8:28   ` Jan Kara
2009-09-04 11:59     ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-04  7:46 ` [PATCH 2/8] writeback: move dirty inodes from super_block to backing_dev_info Jens Axboe
2009-09-04  7:46 ` [PATCH 3/8] writeback: switch to per-bdi threads for flushing data Jens Axboe
2009-09-04 10:54   ` Jan Kara
2009-09-04 11:58     ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-04 12:04       ` [PATCH 3/8] writeback: switch to per-bdi threads for flushing data v2 Jens Axboe
2009-09-04 12:06         ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-07 18:36         ` Jan Kara
2009-09-07 18:45           ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-07 19:45             ` Jan Kara
2009-09-07 19:50               ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-04  7:46 ` [PATCH 4/8] writeback: get rid of pdflush completely Jens Axboe
2009-09-04  7:46 ` [PATCH 5/8] writeback: add some debug inode list counters to bdi stats Jens Axboe
2009-09-04  7:46 ` [PATCH 6/8] writeback: add name to backing_dev_info Jens Axboe
2009-09-04  7:46 ` [PATCH 7/8] writeback: check for registered bdi in flusher add and inode dirty Jens Axboe
2009-09-04  7:46 ` [PATCH 8/8] vm: Add an tuning knob for vm.max_writeback_mb Jens Axboe
2009-09-04 15:28   ` Richard Kennedy
2009-09-05 13:26     ` Jamie Lokier
2009-09-05 16:18       ` Richard Kennedy
2009-09-05 16:46     ` Theodore Tso
2009-09-07 19:09   ` Jan Kara [this message]
2009-09-08  9:23 [PATCH 0/8] Per-bdi writeback flusher threads v19 Jens Axboe
2009-09-08  9:23 ` [PATCH 8/8] vm: Add an tuning knob for vm.max_writeback_mb Jens Axboe
2009-09-08 10:37   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-09-08 16:06     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-08 16:29       ` Chris Mason
2009-09-08 16:56         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-08 17:28           ` Chris Mason
2009-09-08 17:46             ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-08 17:55               ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-08 18:32                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-09 14:23                   ` Jan Kara
2009-09-09 14:37                     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-10 15:49                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-14 11:17                       ` Jan Kara
2009-09-24  8:33                         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-24 15:38                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-25  1:33                             ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-29 17:35                           ` Jan Kara
2009-09-30  1:24                             ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-30 11:55                               ` Jan Kara
2009-09-30 12:10                                 ` Jens Axboe
2009-10-01 15:17                                   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-10-01 13:36                                 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-10-01 14:22                                   ` Jan Kara
2009-10-01 14:54                                     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-10-01 21:35                                       ` Jan Kara
2009-10-02  2:25                                         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-10-02  9:54                                           ` Jan Kara
2009-10-02 10:34                                             ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-08 18:35                 ` Chris Mason
2009-09-08 17:57               ` Chris Mason
2009-09-08 18:28                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-09  1:53           ` Dave Chinner
2009-09-09  3:52             ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-08 18:06         ` Theodore Tso
2009-09-08 18:19           ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-09-08 19:34             ` Theodore Tso
2009-09-09  9:29         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-09 12:28           ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-09-09 12:32             ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-09 12:36               ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-09-09 12:37               ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-09 12:43                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-09-09 12:44                   ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-09 12:51                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-09-09 12:57                 ` Wu Fengguang

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