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From: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: Roland Dreier <rdreier@cisco.com>
Cc: kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe@obsidianresearch.com>,
	Brice Goglin <Brice.Goglin@inria.fr>,
	linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	general@lists.openfabrics.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [ofa-general] Re: [GIT PULL] please pull ummunotify
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 16:03:04 +0900 (JST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090915155231.DB86.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <adaljklifkt.fsf@cisco.com>

> 
>  > So.. What is the problem with fork? The semantics of what should
>  > happen seem natural enough to me, the PD doesn't get copied to the
>  > child, so the MR stays with the parent. COW events on the pinned
>  > region must be resolved so that the physical page stays with the
>  > process that has pinned it - the pin is logically released in the
>  > child because the MR doesn't exist because the PD doesn't exist.
> 
> This is getting away from the problem that ummunotify is solving, but
> handling a COW fault generated by the parent by doing the copy in the
> child seems like a pretty major, tricky change to make.  The child may
> have forked 100 more times in the meantime, meaning we now have to
> change 101 memory maps ... the cost of page faults goes through the roof
> probably...

Ummm...
Perhaps my first question was wrong. I'm not intent to NAK your patch.
I merely want to know your patch detail...

ok, I ask you again as another word.

 - I guess you have your MPI implementaion w/ ummunotify, right?
 - I guess you have test sevaral pattern, right?
   if so, can we see your test result?
 - I think you can explain your MPI advantage/disadvantage against
   current OpenMPI (or mpich et al).
 - I guess your patch dramatically improve MPI implementaion, but
   it's not free. it request some limitation to MPI application, right?
 - I imagine multi thread and fork. Is there another linmitaion?
 - In past discuttion, you said ummunotify user should not use
   multi threading. you also think user should not fork?




  reply	other threads:[~2009-09-15  7:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-09-11  4:38 Roland Dreier
2009-09-11  5:56 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-09-11  6:03   ` Roland Dreier
2009-09-11  6:11     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-09-11 16:42       ` Gleb Natapov
2009-09-11  6:15     ` Brice Goglin
2009-09-11  6:21       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-09-11  6:22       ` Roland Dreier
2009-09-11  6:40         ` [ofa-general] " Jason Gunthorpe
2009-09-11 16:58           ` Roland Dreier
2009-09-15  7:03             ` KOSAKI Motohiro [this message]
2009-09-15  8:27               ` Roland Dreier
2009-09-15 12:38               ` Jeff Squyres
2009-09-15 11:34 ` Pavel Machek
2009-09-15 14:57   ` [ofa-general] " Roland Dreier
2009-09-28 20:49     ` Pavel Machek
2009-09-28 21:40       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2009-09-16 16:30 ` Roland Dreier
2009-09-16 16:40   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-09-17 11:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-17 14:24   ` [ofa-general] " Roland Dreier
2009-09-17 14:32     ` Roland Dreier
2009-09-17 14:49       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-17 15:03         ` Roland Dreier
2009-09-17 15:22           ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-17 15:45           ` Roland Dreier
2009-09-18 11:50             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-29 17:13             ` Pavel Machek
2009-09-30  9:44               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-30 16:02                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2009-10-12 18:19                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-12 19:30                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2009-10-12 20:20                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-13  4:05                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2009-10-13  6:40                           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-13 16:27                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2009-10-13  5:43                         ` Brice Goglin
2009-10-13  6:38                           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-30 17:06                 ` Roland Dreier
2009-10-02 16:32                 ` Roland Dreier
2009-10-02 20:45                   ` Pavel Machek
2009-10-07 22:34                   ` Roland Dreier
2009-10-12 17:33                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-17 14:43     ` Peter Zijlstra

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