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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Brice Goglin <Brice.Goglin@inria.fr>
Cc: Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe@obsidianresearch.com>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>, Roland Dreier <rdreier@cisco.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Anton Blanchard <anton@samba.org>,
	general@lists.openfabrics.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, Jeff Squyres <jsquyres@cisco.com>
Subject: Re: [ofa-general] Re: [GIT PULL] please pull ummunotify
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 08:38:16 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091013063816.GB9470@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4AD41373.8010108@inria.fr>


* Brice Goglin <Brice.Goglin@inria.fr> wrote:

> Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > * Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe@obsidianresearch.com> wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 08:19:44PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> >>
> >>     
> >>>> After that point the scheme is perfectly lossless.
> >>>>         
> >>> Well if it can OOM it's not lossless, obviously. You just define 
> >>> "event loss" to be equivalent to "Destruction of the universe." ;-)
> >>>       
> >> It can't OOM once the ummunotify registration is done - when an event 
> >> occurs it doesn't allocate any memory and it doesn't loose events.
> >>     
> >
> > Well, it has built-in event loss via the UMMUNOTIFY_FLAG_HINT mechanism: 
> > any double events on the same range will cause an imprecise event to be 
> > recorded and cause the loss of information.
> >   
> 
> The target (MPI) application doesn't care about how many events are 
> coming here. It just needs to know whether something has been 
> invalidated in the range. If so, it destroy the whole RDMA window 
> anyway. So it's actually _good_ that multiple events are merged into a 
> single one: the application only has to process a single event per 
> partially-invalidated range.

it's not unconditionally good as the fuzzy-merge-events rule:

                        events[n].flags      = UMMUNOTIFY_EVENT_FLAG_HINT;
                        events[n].hint_start = max(reg->start, reg->hint_start);
                        events[n].hint_end   = min(reg->end, reg->hint_end);

in essence merges flushes into a single interval - which inevitably 
might include areas of memory that were not flushed at all.

For example these two flushes:

  [...]          [...]

Would be merged into:

  [..................]

Btw., isnt the above max/min logic buggy, causing lost events? Shouldnt 
it be:

                        events[n].hint_start = min(reg->start, reg->hint_start);
                        events[n].hint_end   = max(reg->end, reg->hint_end);

?

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2009-10-13  6:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-09-11  4:38 Roland Dreier
2009-09-11  5:56 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-09-11  6:03   ` Roland Dreier
2009-09-11  6:11     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-09-11 16:42       ` Gleb Natapov
2009-09-11  6:15     ` Brice Goglin
2009-09-11  6:21       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-09-11  6:22       ` Roland Dreier
2009-09-11  6:40         ` [ofa-general] " Jason Gunthorpe
2009-09-11 16:58           ` Roland Dreier
2009-09-15  7:03             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-09-15  8:27               ` Roland Dreier
2009-09-15 12:38               ` Jeff Squyres
2009-09-15 11:34 ` Pavel Machek
2009-09-15 14:57   ` [ofa-general] " Roland Dreier
2009-09-28 20:49     ` Pavel Machek
2009-09-28 21:40       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2009-09-16 16:30 ` Roland Dreier
2009-09-16 16:40   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-09-17 11:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-17 14:24   ` [ofa-general] " Roland Dreier
2009-09-17 14:32     ` Roland Dreier
2009-09-17 14:49       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-17 15:03         ` Roland Dreier
2009-09-17 15:22           ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-17 15:45           ` Roland Dreier
2009-09-18 11:50             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-29 17:13             ` Pavel Machek
2009-09-30  9:44               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-30 16:02                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2009-10-12 18:19                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-12 19:30                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2009-10-12 20:20                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-13  4:05                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2009-10-13  6:40                           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-13 16:27                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2009-10-13  5:43                         ` Brice Goglin
2009-10-13  6:38                           ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2009-09-30 17:06                 ` Roland Dreier
2009-10-02 16:32                 ` Roland Dreier
2009-10-02 20:45                   ` Pavel Machek
2009-10-07 22:34                   ` Roland Dreier
2009-10-12 17:33                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-17 14:43     ` Peter Zijlstra

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