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From: Markus Trippelsdorf <markus@trippelsdorf.de>
To: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
Cc: Frans Pop <elendil@planet.nl>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [.32-rc3] scheduler: iwlagn consistently high in "waiting for CPU"
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 22:34:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091008203426.GA1946@phenom2.trippelsdorf.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1255026217.6643.12.camel@marge.simson.net>

On Thu, Oct 08, 2009 at 08:23:37PM +0200, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 16:55 +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> > On Thursday 08 October 2009, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> > > From: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>
> > > Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 13:24:16 +0200
> > > Subject: [PATCH] x86, timers: check for pending timers after (device)
> > > interrupts
> > >
> > > Now that range timers and deferred timers are common, I found a
> > > problem with these using the "perf timechart" tool.
> > >
> > > It turns out that on x86, these two 'opportunistic' timers only
> > > get checked when another "real" timer happens.
> > > These opportunistic timers have the objective to save power by
> > > hitchhiking on other wakeups, as to avoid CPU wakeups by themselves
> > > as much as possible.
> > 
> > This patch makes quite a difference for me. iwlagn and phy0 now 
> > consistently show at ~10 ms or lower.
> > 
> > I do still get occasional high latencies, but those are for things like
> > "[rpc_wait_bit_killable]" or "Writing a page to disk", where I guess you'd 
> > expect them. Those high latencies are mostly only listed for "Global" and 
> > don't translate to individual processes.
> 
> I still see very high latencies coming out of idle (last noted was >
> 300ms, NO_HZ) with this patch, and wonder if the hunk below makes any
> difference whatsoever for you.  Here, it definitely does. (shouldn't)

I'm also seeing these strange, very high latencies here. Your patch
didn't help unfortunately.

This is from an otherwise idle NO_NZ system:

# ./perf sched latency

 -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  Task                  |   Runtime ms  | Switches | Average delay ms | Maximum delay ms |
 -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  ksoftirqd/0:4         |      2.216 ms |      170 | avg:   24.235 ms | max:  808.356 ms |
  ksoftirqd/1:6         |      2.611 ms |      205 | avg:    4.334 ms | max:  165.553 ms |
  migration/2:7         |      0.000 ms |        1 | avg:    3.060 ms | max:    3.060 ms |

With latencytop the ksoftirqd latency is over 1 sec frequently. (Could be
ondemand CPUfreq governor related?)

-- 
Markus

  reply	other threads:[~2009-10-08 20:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-05 13:00 Frans Pop
2009-10-05 14:13 ` Frans Pop
2009-10-05 14:24   ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-10-06 15:49     ` Frans Pop
2009-10-07 17:10       ` Frans Pop
2009-10-07 18:10         ` Mike Galbraith
2009-10-07 18:34         ` Frans Pop
2009-10-08  4:05           ` Mike Galbraith
2009-10-08  6:23             ` Mike Galbraith
2009-10-08 13:40             ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-10-08 14:13               ` Mike Galbraith
2009-10-08 14:54                 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-10-08 14:55               ` Frans Pop
2009-10-08 15:09                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-10-08 18:23                 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-10-08 20:34                   ` Markus Trippelsdorf [this message]
2009-10-09  3:35                     ` Mike Galbraith
2009-10-09  3:51                       ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2009-10-08 20:59                   ` Frans Pop
2009-10-09  3:04                     ` Mike Galbraith
2009-10-09  6:35                     ` Mike Galbraith
2009-10-09  7:13                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-10-09  7:55                       ` Sedat Dilek
2009-10-09  8:06                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-10-09 14:23                       ` [tip:sched/urgent] sched: Update the clock of runqueue select_task_rq() selected tip-bot for Mike Galbraith
2009-10-09 16:27                       ` [.32-rc3] scheduler: iwlagn consistently high in "waiting for CPU" Frans Pop
2009-10-09 20:06                         ` Mike Galbraith
2009-10-08 15:30               ` [tip:timers/urgent] x86, timers: Check for pending timers after (device) interrupts tip-bot for Arjan van de Ven
2009-10-09 14:23               ` [tip:sched/urgent] Revert "x86, timers: Check for pending timers after (device) interrupts" tip-bot for Ingo Molnar
2009-10-08 11:24           ` [.32-rc3] scheduler: iwlagn consistently high in "waiting for CPU" Mike Galbraith
2009-10-08 13:09             ` Frans Pop
2009-10-08 13:18               ` Mike Galbraith
2009-10-08 13:45             ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-10-08 14:15               ` Mike Galbraith

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