From: Jason Baron <jbaron@redhat.com>
To: Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@elte.hu,
mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca, hpa@zytor.com, tglx@linutronix.de,
rostedt@goodmis.org, andi@firstfloor.org, rth@redhat.com,
mhiramat@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] jump label v3
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:55:58 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091119215558.GD2625@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091119035424.B3E8B1E2C@magilla.sf.frob.com>
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 07:54:24PM -0800, Roland McGrath wrote:
> 2. optimal compiled hot path code
>
> You and Richard have been working on this in gcc and we know the state
> of it now. When we get the cold labels feature done, it will be ideal
> for -O(2?). But people mostly use -Os and there no block reordering
> gets done now (I think perhaps this even means likely/unlikely don't
> really change which path is the straight line, just the source order
> of the blocks still determines it). So we hope for more incremental
> improvements here, and maybe even really optimal code for -O2 soon.
> But at least for -Os it may not be better than "unconditional jump
> around" as the "straight line" path in the foreseeable future. As
> noted, that alone is still a nice savings over the status quo for the
> disabled case. (You gave an "average cycles saved" for this vs a load
> and test, but do you have any comparisons of how those two compare to
> no tracepoint at all?)
>
i've run that in the past, and for the nop + jump sequence its between
2 - 4 cycles on average vs. no tracepoint.
> 3. bookkeeping magic to find all the jumps to enable for a given tracepoint
>
> Here you have a working first draft, but it looks pretty clunky.
> That strcmp just makes me gag. For a first version that's still
> pretty simple, I think it should be trivial to use a pointer
> comparison there. For tracepoints, it can be the address of the
> struct tracepoint. For the general case, it can be the address of
> the global that would be flag variable in case of no asm goto support.
>
> For more incremental improvements, we could cut down on running
> through the entire table for every switch. If there are many
> different switches (as there are already for many different
> tracepoints), then you really just want to run through the
> insn-patch list for the particular switch when you toggle it.
>
> It's possible to group this all statically at link time, but all
> the linker magic hacking required to get that to go is probably
> more trouble than it's worth.
>
> A simple hack is to run through the big unsorted table at boot time
> and turn it into a contiguous table for each switch. Then
> e.g. hang each table off the per-switch global variable by the same
> name that in a no-asm-goto build would be the simple global flag.
>
that probably makes the most sense. Do a sort of the jump table and then
store an offset,length pair with each switch. I was thinking of this as follow
on optimization (the tracepoint code is already O(N) per switch toggle, where
is N = total number of all tracepoint site locations, and not O(n), where
n = number of sites per tracepoint). Certainly, if this is a gating issue for
this patchset, I can fix it now.
>
> Finally, for using this for general purposes unrelated to tracepoints,
> I envision something like:
>
> DECLARE_MOSTLY_NOT(foobar);
>
> foo(int x, int y)
> {
> if (x > y && mostly_not(foobar))
> do_foobar(x - y);
> }
>
> ... set_mostly_not(foobar, onoff);
>
> where it's:
>
> #define DECLARE_MOSTLY_NOT(name) ... __something_##name
> #define mostly_not(name) ({ int _doit = 0; __label__ _yes; \
> JUMP_LABEL(name, _yes, __something_##name); \
> if (0) _yes: __cold _doit = 1; \
> unlikely (_doit); })
>
> I don't think we've tried to figure out how well this compiles yet.
> But it shows the sort of thing that we can do to expose this feature
> in a way that's simple and unrestrictive for kernel code to use casually.
>
>
cool. the assembly output would be interesting here...
thanks,
-Jason
prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-11-19 21:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-11-18 22:43 Jason Baron
2009-11-18 22:43 ` [RFC PATCH 1/6] jump label v3 - kprobes/x86: Cleanup RELATIVEJUMP_INSTRUCTION to RELATIVEJUMP_OPCODE Jason Baron
2009-11-18 22:43 ` [RFC PATCH 2/6] jump label v3 - x86: Introduce generic jump patching without stop_machine Jason Baron
2009-11-19 0:28 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-11-19 0:58 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-11-19 1:22 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-11-19 1:39 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-11-19 1:57 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-11-19 4:16 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-11-19 14:04 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-11-19 16:03 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-11-20 1:00 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-11-21 15:32 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-11-21 1:11 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-11-21 15:38 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-11-20 21:54 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-11-21 0:06 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-11-21 0:19 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-11-21 16:21 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-11-21 21:55 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-11-22 1:46 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-11-21 16:12 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-11-18 22:43 ` [RFC PATCH 3/6] jump label v3 - move opcode defs Jason Baron
2009-11-18 22:43 ` [RFC PATCH 4/6] jump label v3 - base patch Jason Baron
2009-11-18 23:38 ` [PATCH] notifier atomic call chain notrace Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-11-19 0:02 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-11-19 3:59 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-11-19 16:48 ` Jason Baron
2009-11-18 22:43 ` [RFC PATCH 5/6] jump label v3 - add module support Jason Baron
2009-11-18 22:43 ` [RFC PATCH 6/6] jump label v3 - tracepoint support Jason Baron
2009-11-18 22:51 ` [RFC PATCH 0/6] jump label v3 H. Peter Anvin
2009-11-18 23:07 ` Roland McGrath
2009-11-18 23:18 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-11-19 3:54 ` Roland McGrath
2009-11-19 21:55 ` Jason Baron [this message]
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