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From: Pekka Paalanen <pq@iki.fi>
To: Will Dyson <will.dyson@gmail.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Dave Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
	Xavier Bestel <xavier.bestel@free.fr>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.sf.net
Subject: Re: [git pull] drm
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 23:12:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091210231223.491d47eb@daedalus.pq.iki.fi> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8e6f94720912101235l30d05c03m54b769d9fd6ac35d@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:35:08 -0500
Will Dyson <will.dyson@gmail.com> wrote:

> This seems similar to the unfortunate situation with the b43
> wireless card firmware. Broadcom refuses to provide the firmware
> under a redistributable license (or even as files separate from
> their proprietary drivers). This did not stop b43 from being
> included in Linux. Distributions have dealt with it by providing
> a script that downloads the proprietary driver and extracts the
> firmware from it to files in /lib/firmware.
> 
> Do you think that a similar solution for nouveau would be legally
> problematic? Or is the issue technical, since you mention that the
> ctxprogs were obtained by mmiotrace, instead of a more
> straightforward extraction from the binary driver blobs?

It is definitely a lot harder than a script that just downloads
something. It would have to:
- download the proprietary driver
- install it and load it into the kernel
- activate mmiotrace (if it even is compiled in)
- reconfigure and start X and quit
- analyse the mmiotrace log to extract the ctxprog and ctxvals
- undo all the proprietary setup

I cannot comment on the legal side, but the practise sounds too
cumbersome.


Thanks.

-- 
Pekka Paalanen
http://www.iki.fi/pq/

  reply	other threads:[~2009-12-10 21:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-12-10  6:17 Dave Airlie
2009-12-10 15:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-10 15:40   ` Xavier Bestel
2009-12-10 16:24     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-10 17:40       ` Maarten Maathuis
2009-12-10 18:42         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-10 19:13           ` Pekka Enberg
2009-12-10 19:13           ` Robert Noland
2009-12-10 19:28           ` Alan Cox
2009-12-10 19:36           ` Jesse Barnes
2009-12-10 19:37           ` Dave Airlie
2009-12-10 19:45             ` Roland Dreier
2009-12-10 19:49           ` Pekka Paalanen
2009-12-10 20:35             ` Will Dyson
2009-12-10 21:12               ` Pekka Paalanen [this message]
2009-12-10 19:53           ` Stephane Marchesin
2009-12-10 23:37             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-10 23:50               ` Dave Airlie
2009-12-10 23:58               ` Alan Cox
2009-12-11  0:09                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-11  0:20                   ` "C. Bergström"
2009-12-11  0:32                     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-11  0:47                       ` Dave Airlie
2009-12-11  1:34                       ` Kyle McMartin
2009-12-11  0:21                   ` Dave Airlie
2009-12-11  0:45                     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-11  9:18                   ` Alan Cox
2009-12-11  9:34                     ` David Miller
2009-12-11 10:15                       ` Andy Walls
2009-12-11 10:20                       ` Dave Airlie
2009-12-11 12:45                         ` tytso
2009-12-11 12:50                           ` Alan Cox
2009-12-11 10:28                     ` Jeff Garzik
2009-12-11 10:46                       ` Dave Airlie
2009-12-11 15:28                       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-11 17:49                         ` Jeff Garzik
2009-12-11 10:02                 ` Stephane Marchesin
2009-12-11 10:24                   ` Andy Walls
2009-12-10 16:47     ` Alan Cox
2009-12-10 21:49       ` Ingo Molnar
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-02-04  5:11 Dave Airlie
2010-02-11  4:20 Dave Airlie
2010-02-15  9:53 ` Christian Borntraeger
2010-02-15 20:12   ` Marcin Slusarz
2010-02-15 20:39     ` Maarten Maathuis
2010-02-15 22:13       ` Marcin Slusarz
2010-02-15 22:55   ` Christian Borntraeger
2010-02-16  1:19     ` Ben Skeggs
2010-02-16 11:39       ` Christian Borntraeger
2010-01-11  4:52 Dave Airlie
2009-09-29  3:52 Dave Airlie
2009-09-29  4:26 ` [git pull] drm Dave Airlie
2009-02-09  8:30 Dave Airlie
2009-01-07  1:59 Dave Airlie
2008-12-29  8:32 Dave Airlie
2009-01-04 19:19 ` Gabriel C
2009-01-10  2:03   ` Dave Airlie
2009-01-09 15:07 ` Richard Purdie
2009-01-09 18:03   ` Richard Purdie
2009-01-10  1:13     ` Richard Purdie
2009-01-10  2:04       ` Dave Airlie
2009-01-10  9:58         ` Richard Purdie
2009-01-10 23:04           ` Dave Airlie
2009-01-10 23:51             ` Richard Purdie
2009-01-16  6:53               ` Brice Goglin
2009-01-11  9:29   ` Graham Murray
2009-01-11  9:56     ` Dave Airlie

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