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From: Dave Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Stephane Marchesin <stephane.marchesin@gmail.com>,
	Maarten Maathuis <madman2003@gmail.com>,
	Xavier Bestel <xavier.bestel@free.fr>,
	Dave Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.sf.net
Subject: Re: [git pull] drm
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:21:27 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <21d7e9970912101621q7aafbd14g8a34bedb75b6c177@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0912101601100.3560@localhost.localdomain>

>
> I realize that you have some emotional attachments to Red Hat, but ask
> yourself (and answer honestly): what would you think if some random other
> distro was packaging tens of thousands of lines of kernel code and not
> apparently working at trying to get them upstream?

Lots of distros do this all the time, you just don't have any hardware
or care about it.
If you didn't have an nvidia box you wouldn't care about this either.
If I send you
an LIRC remote will you bitch about LIRC not being upstream and
Fedora/Ubuntu/everyone
else shipping it?

>
> Dave claims it's only been going on for a few months, but quite frankly,
> we all know better. The nouveau kernel modules have been shipped for a lot
> longer than just F12.

No I know exactly how long we've had the code in Fedora, it predates both
mine and Ben's employment at Red Hat. But it doesn't change the fact
the code has only in the last 2-3 months gotten to a stage where the core
DRM code was able to support it, mainly due to radeon KMS work being
pushed. Previous nouveau drivers shipped were either UMS with an API
that nobody wanted upstream, or KMS with a reliance on a core DRM feature
that no-one wanted upstream. We've been resolving those issues first,
while hoping the lawyers could deal with ctxprogs, guess we moved faster
than them.

I'm going to see what Ben can do with a firmware loader and the ctxprogs,
we can send a patch that contains all the other bits of the driver, however
since the ctxprogs aren't currently something we can add Signed-off-by to,
someone else will have to endeavour to provide them some other way.

Dave.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-12-11  0:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-12-10  6:17 Dave Airlie
2009-12-10 15:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-10 15:40   ` Xavier Bestel
2009-12-10 16:24     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-10 17:40       ` Maarten Maathuis
2009-12-10 18:42         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-10 19:13           ` Pekka Enberg
2009-12-10 19:13           ` Robert Noland
2009-12-10 19:28           ` Alan Cox
2009-12-10 19:36           ` Jesse Barnes
2009-12-10 19:37           ` Dave Airlie
2009-12-10 19:45             ` Roland Dreier
2009-12-10 19:49           ` Pekka Paalanen
2009-12-10 20:35             ` Will Dyson
2009-12-10 21:12               ` Pekka Paalanen
2009-12-10 19:53           ` Stephane Marchesin
2009-12-10 23:37             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-10 23:50               ` Dave Airlie
2009-12-10 23:58               ` Alan Cox
2009-12-11  0:09                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-11  0:20                   ` "C. Bergström"
2009-12-11  0:32                     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-11  0:47                       ` Dave Airlie
2009-12-11  1:34                       ` Kyle McMartin
2009-12-11  0:21                   ` Dave Airlie [this message]
2009-12-11  0:45                     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-11  9:18                   ` Alan Cox
2009-12-11  9:34                     ` David Miller
2009-12-11 10:15                       ` Andy Walls
2009-12-11 10:20                       ` Dave Airlie
2009-12-11 12:45                         ` tytso
2009-12-11 12:50                           ` Alan Cox
2009-12-11 10:28                     ` Jeff Garzik
2009-12-11 10:46                       ` Dave Airlie
2009-12-11 15:28                       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-11 17:49                         ` Jeff Garzik
2009-12-11 10:02                 ` Stephane Marchesin
2009-12-11 10:24                   ` Andy Walls
2009-12-10 16:47     ` Alan Cox
2009-12-10 21:49       ` Ingo Molnar
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-02-04  5:11 Dave Airlie
2010-02-11  4:20 Dave Airlie
2010-02-15  9:53 ` Christian Borntraeger
2010-02-15 20:12   ` Marcin Slusarz
2010-02-15 20:39     ` Maarten Maathuis
2010-02-15 22:13       ` Marcin Slusarz
2010-02-15 22:55   ` Christian Borntraeger
2010-02-16  1:19     ` Ben Skeggs
2010-02-16 11:39       ` Christian Borntraeger
2010-01-11  4:52 Dave Airlie
2009-09-29  3:52 Dave Airlie
2009-09-29  4:26 ` [git pull] drm Dave Airlie
2009-02-09  8:30 Dave Airlie
2009-01-07  1:59 Dave Airlie
2008-12-29  8:32 Dave Airlie
2009-01-04 19:19 ` Gabriel C
2009-01-10  2:03   ` Dave Airlie
2009-01-09 15:07 ` Richard Purdie
2009-01-09 18:03   ` Richard Purdie
2009-01-10  1:13     ` Richard Purdie
2009-01-10  2:04       ` Dave Airlie
2009-01-10  9:58         ` Richard Purdie
2009-01-10 23:04           ` Dave Airlie
2009-01-10 23:51             ` Richard Purdie
2009-01-16  6:53               ` Brice Goglin
2009-01-11  9:29   ` Graham Murray
2009-01-11  9:56     ` Dave Airlie

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