From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>
Cc: Jean Delvare <khali@linux-fr.org>,
lasse.collin@tukaani.org,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
mirrors@kernel.org, users@kernel.org,
"FTPAdmin Kernel.org" <ftpadmin@kernel.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [kernel.org users] XZ Migration discussion
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 07:20:04 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100213062004.GA22848@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100212230702.GA10266@1wt.eu>
Hi!
> > > It's probably worth keeping things like the .gz files around, if nothing
> > > else for older distros, systems, etc that don't have xz yet (since it's
> > > still relatively new)
> >
> > Hardly a good reason IMHO. xz can be installed on these systems. When
> > we switched to git, nobody had it and it did not stop us.
>
> I don't agree, it's different. Git is only used by developers, and even
> not all of them. Sources are a reference. Anyone can download them to
> look for anything. Switching to a specific format which really is not
> common at all on older distros nor on any system looks a bit like
> proprietary encoding eventhough it's not the case. But it's a way to
> tell people that if they want the sources in clear text form, they
> first have to find a tool capable of decompressing them. Gzip is well
> defined as a standard, it's even described in an RFC and is present
> on almost any system (unix or not) now. Any student who wants to take
> a look at the kernel will have access to gunzip, even from an old
> Solaris 8 workstation or a Windows XP desktop PC. XZ if far from
> being there, and the student will not necessarily be able to install
> it. And Peter raised some valid points about the hardware requirements
> to run such tools ; I'm not sure the guys running Linux on their old
> Sparc-2 would like XZ only a lot.
It is not just student on old workstation. I'm trying to keep Linux
working on spitz PDA and kohjinsha subnotebook. Especially zaurus has
about power of old sparc two... otoh it runs 4 hours on cellphone
battery.
Pavel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-02-13 6:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-02-11 18:36 J.H.
2010-02-11 19:44 ` david
2010-02-11 19:48 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-02-12 0:14 ` [kernel.org mirrors] " Carlos Carvalho
2010-02-11 20:22 ` [kernel.org users] " Willy Tarreau
2010-02-11 20:51 ` Pavel Machek
2010-02-11 22:22 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-02-12 14:35 ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-13 17:10 ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-13 18:49 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2010-02-13 19:30 ` Randy Dunlap
2010-02-16 14:55 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-02-13 23:28 ` Stefan Richter
2010-02-14 9:07 ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-13 23:52 ` Phillip Lougher
2010-02-14 9:23 ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-14 9:33 ` Justin P. Mattock
2010-02-14 9:49 ` Willy Tarreau
2010-02-14 12:43 ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-15 21:31 ` James Cloos
2010-02-17 5:40 ` Willy Tarreau
2010-02-17 5:54 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-02-17 10:22 ` Petri Kaukasoina
2010-02-17 10:25 ` Petri Kaukasoina
2010-02-14 9:56 ` Andi Kleen
2010-02-18 23:59 ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-02-14 10:16 ` Lasse Collin
2010-02-12 14:01 ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-12 15:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-02-12 19:02 ` J.H.
2010-02-12 19:23 ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-12 23:07 ` Willy Tarreau
2010-02-13 6:20 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2010-02-13 10:06 ` Stefan Richter
2010-02-13 10:21 ` Stefan Richter
2010-02-14 9:56 ` Lasse Collin
2010-02-13 8:17 ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-13 9:59 ` Stefan Richter
2010-02-13 10:18 ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-13 21:37 ` [kernel] " Mr. James W. Laferriere
2010-02-13 22:39 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2010-02-15 19:33 ` [kernel.org users] [kernel] " Steve French
2010-02-16 9:16 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2010-02-16 15:13 ` J.H.
2010-02-14 17:13 ` [kernel.org users] " Pavel Machek
2010-02-14 17:33 ` Stefan Richter
2010-02-14 20:51 ` Pavel Machek
2010-02-15 8:48 ` Stefan Richter
2010-02-15 23:32 ` Tom Rini
2010-02-16 8:21 ` Stefan Richter
2010-02-14 17:07 ` Pavel Machek
2010-02-14 18:39 ` Stefan Richter
2010-02-14 21:04 ` david
2010-02-14 21:32 ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-14 18:59 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-02-14 19:08 ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-15 15:15 ` tytso
2010-02-16 15:29 ` J.H.
2010-02-16 16:03 ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-17 1:36 ` David Rees
2010-02-16 14:00 ` Pavel Machek
2010-02-19 0:08 ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-02-19 4:38 ` J.H.
2010-02-12 15:25 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-02-12 16:11 ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-12 16:30 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-02-12 16:44 ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-12 20:34 ` Junio C Hamano
2010-02-12 21:16 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-02-16 15:39 ` ketchup was " Pavel Machek
2010-02-16 16:17 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-02-16 16:27 ` Pavel Machek
2010-02-21 13:53 ` Pavel Machek
2010-02-21 14:26 ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-21 19:28 ` Pavel Machek
2010-02-22 18:59 ` Pavel Machek
2010-02-23 13:14 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-02-23 20:32 ` Pavel Machek
2010-02-12 19:02 ` Phillip Lougher
2010-02-12 19:32 ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-12 19:57 ` Phillip Lougher
2010-02-12 21:59 ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-12 23:30 ` Phillip Lougher
2010-02-12 23:39 ` Phillip Lougher
2010-02-13 7:31 ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-13 22:37 ` Phillip Lougher
2010-02-14 9:32 ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-14 9:53 ` Justin P. Mattock
[not found] ` <20100212223547.GN5186@tux>
2010-02-13 7:20 ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-12 19:03 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-02-12 20:25 ` Matthew Wilcox
2010-02-12 21:54 ` Greg KH
2010-02-12 21:58 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-02-14 14:49 ` Harald Arnesen
2010-02-14 18:34 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-02-12 20:31 ` [kernel.org mirrors] " Sleddens, J.P.G.
2010-02-12 22:11 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-02-12 23:14 ` [kernel.org users] [kernel.org mirrors] " Willy Tarreau
2010-02-13 7:42 ` [kernel.org users] " Tony Luck
2010-02-13 8:14 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-02-13 8:53 ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-14 5:43 ` H. Peter Anvin
[not found] ` <987664A83D2D224EAE907B061CE93D53123E0ED5@orsmsx505.amr.corp.intel.com>
2010-02-17 0:11 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-02-14 18:03 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-02-14 22:27 ` Stephen Hemminger
2010-02-15 16:15 ` Jean Delvare
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