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From: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>
To: Jean Delvare <khali@linux-fr.org>
Cc: Phillip Lougher <phillip@lougher.demon.co.uk>,
	mirrors@kernel.org, lasse.collin@tukaani.org,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	users@kernel.org, "FTPAdmin Kernel.org" <ftpadmin@kernel.org>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Subject: Re: [kernel.org users] XZ Migration discussion
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 10:49:40 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100214094940.GB17999@1wt.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100214102308.1d1d6fff@hyperion.delvare>

Hi Jean,

On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 10:23:08AM +0100, Jean Delvare wrote:
> I am not claiming that gzip is dead. It is very useful and it is there
> to stay for the years to come, no doubt about that. What I'm saying is
> that it isn't the best choice for large files to be downloaded from a
> remote server.

Well, I personally like to be able to simply run "less patch-2.6.27.45.gz"
and have it transparently uncompressed and dumped on my terminal. It
doesn't do that on bz2. We could find multiple examples.

Another thing comes to mind, because I've been beaten by this in the
past. People working in enterprises where the internet access passes
via mandatory proxies coupled with anti-virus can often download many
things but not binaries that can't be analysed. At this time, I could
only download tar.gz but not .bz2. And please don't tell me I have to
go to the admin to tell him to change his proxy's configuration, you
can't do that when you work as a consultant for a 20000 persons group
where products are selected after 6-12 months of testing and managed
by different people from those who qualify them.

In my opinion, .xz is a very good option to replace .bz2 as it will
bring advantages without downsides. But .gz should stay as it has
been available from day 1, at least for all people who may have
trouble with .xz for whatever reason. If it has not been a problem
for the last 16 years, I don't see why it would suddenly become one.

Regards,
Willy


  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-02-14  9:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-02-11 18:36 J.H.
2010-02-11 19:44 ` david
2010-02-11 19:48 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-02-12  0:14   ` [kernel.org mirrors] " Carlos Carvalho
2010-02-11 20:22 ` [kernel.org users] " Willy Tarreau
2010-02-11 20:51 ` Pavel Machek
2010-02-11 22:22   ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-02-12 14:35     ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-13 17:10   ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-13 18:49     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2010-02-13 19:30       ` Randy Dunlap
2010-02-16 14:55       ` Steven Rostedt
2010-02-13 23:28     ` Stefan Richter
2010-02-14  9:07       ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-13 23:52     ` Phillip Lougher
2010-02-14  9:23       ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-14  9:33         ` Justin P. Mattock
2010-02-14  9:49         ` Willy Tarreau [this message]
2010-02-14 12:43           ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-15 21:31           ` James Cloos
2010-02-17  5:40             ` Willy Tarreau
2010-02-17  5:54               ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-02-17 10:22               ` Petri Kaukasoina
2010-02-17 10:25               ` Petri Kaukasoina
2010-02-14  9:56       ` Andi Kleen
2010-02-18 23:59         ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-02-14 10:16       ` Lasse Collin
2010-02-12 14:01 ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-12 15:21   ` Linus Torvalds
2010-02-12 19:02     ` J.H.
2010-02-12 19:23       ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-12 23:07         ` Willy Tarreau
2010-02-13  6:20           ` Pavel Machek
2010-02-13 10:06             ` Stefan Richter
2010-02-13 10:21               ` Stefan Richter
2010-02-14  9:56                 ` Lasse Collin
2010-02-13  8:17           ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-13  9:59             ` Stefan Richter
2010-02-13 10:18               ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-13 21:37                 ` [kernel] " Mr. James W. Laferriere
2010-02-13 22:39                   ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2010-02-15 19:33                     ` [kernel.org users] [kernel] " Steve French
2010-02-16  9:16                       ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2010-02-16 15:13                         ` J.H.
2010-02-14 17:13               ` [kernel.org users] " Pavel Machek
2010-02-14 17:33                 ` Stefan Richter
2010-02-14 20:51                   ` Pavel Machek
2010-02-15  8:48                     ` Stefan Richter
2010-02-15 23:32                       ` Tom Rini
2010-02-16  8:21                         ` Stefan Richter
2010-02-14 17:07             ` Pavel Machek
2010-02-14 18:39               ` Stefan Richter
2010-02-14 21:04                 ` david
2010-02-14 21:32                   ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-14 18:59               ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-02-14 19:08               ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-15 15:15                 ` tytso
2010-02-16 15:29                   ` J.H.
2010-02-16 16:03                     ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-17  1:36                     ` David Rees
2010-02-16 14:00                 ` Pavel Machek
2010-02-19  0:08     ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-02-19  4:38       ` J.H.
2010-02-12 15:25   ` Steven Rostedt
2010-02-12 16:11     ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-12 16:30       ` Steven Rostedt
2010-02-12 16:44         ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-12 20:34         ` Junio C Hamano
2010-02-12 21:16           ` Steven Rostedt
2010-02-16 15:39     ` ketchup was " Pavel Machek
2010-02-16 16:17       ` Steven Rostedt
2010-02-16 16:27         ` Pavel Machek
2010-02-21 13:53           ` Pavel Machek
2010-02-21 14:26             ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-21 19:28               ` Pavel Machek
2010-02-22 18:59             ` Pavel Machek
2010-02-23 13:14               ` Steven Rostedt
2010-02-23 20:32                 ` Pavel Machek
2010-02-12 19:02   ` Phillip Lougher
2010-02-12 19:32     ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-12 19:57       ` Phillip Lougher
2010-02-12 21:59         ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-12 23:30           ` Phillip Lougher
2010-02-12 23:39           ` Phillip Lougher
2010-02-13  7:31             ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-13 22:37               ` Phillip Lougher
2010-02-14  9:32                 ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-14  9:53                   ` Justin P. Mattock
     [not found]           ` <20100212223547.GN5186@tux>
2010-02-13  7:20             ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-12 19:03   ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-02-12 20:25     ` Matthew Wilcox
2010-02-12 21:54       ` Greg KH
2010-02-12 21:58       ` Steven Rostedt
2010-02-14 14:49       ` Harald Arnesen
2010-02-14 18:34         ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-02-12 20:31     ` [kernel.org mirrors] " Sleddens, J.P.G.
2010-02-12 22:11       ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-02-12 23:14         ` [kernel.org users] [kernel.org mirrors] " Willy Tarreau
2010-02-13  7:42     ` [kernel.org users] " Tony Luck
2010-02-13  8:14       ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-02-13  8:53         ` Jean Delvare
2010-02-14  5:43           ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found]             ` <987664A83D2D224EAE907B061CE93D53123E0ED5@orsmsx505.amr.corp.intel.com>
2010-02-17  0:11               ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-02-14 18:03 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-02-14 22:27   ` Stephen Hemminger
2010-02-15 16:15     ` Jean Delvare

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