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From: Mark Brown <broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>
To: Sundar R IYER <sundar.iyer@stericsson.com>
Cc: Linus WALLEIJ <linus.walleij@stericsson.com>,
	Bengt JONSSON <bengt.g.jonsson@stericsson.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	STEricsson_nomadik_linux <STEricsson_nomadik_linux@list.st.com>,
	"lrg@slimlogic.co.uk" <lrg@slimlogic.co.uk>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org" 
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"sameo@linux.intel.com" <sameo@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] ux500: add ab8500-regulators machine specific data
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 19:42:51 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100714184251.GG5933@sirena.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100714173650.GA21893@bnru01.bnr.st.com>

On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 11:06:51PM +0530, Sundar R IYER wrote:

> > OK, but your current set of supplies is *very* suspect since you're
> > offering all this control to lists of consumers that don't exist, and

> As said, dont exist for *now*.

This comes back to my point about the control only making sense when the
consumers are present - if you've got missing or partial consumer setup
done then control is questionable.

> Probably, I should remove the REGULATOR_CHANGE_VOLTAGE flag for the fixed
> supplies (as in the driver) to clear up any confusing link. Should I?

Yes.

> > This is normal, but for fairly obvious reasons the very lowest power
> > states are generally handled outside of the regulator API at a hardware
> > level via hardware signals to the regulator.  It's not normally part of
> > the runtime constraints for use while the CPU is live.

> Yes. But my point was that even at a lower level than kernel (BIOS/firmware?)
> the switching would happen via SW. Please correct me if I am wrong!

Well, ultimately it's always triggered by software but the actual signal
to the regulator is often a logic level output by the SoC as the
processor enters a low power state rather than an I2C/SPI write.

> > I'm not sure how you expect this to actually work in practice?  It's
> > going to be pretty hard for a driver to do anything constructive if the
> > power to the hardware gets cut, for example.  Unless you can guarantee
> > that there will never be any use of the hardware without a driver with
> > regulator support one driver's idea of optimal may not join up with what
> > the other consumers need at all.

> Very true. But, I think this will *enforce* drivers using/sharing
> regulators to adhere to the framework to avoid surprises and sole-owner
> misuses, which is good, now that the AB8500 regulators *are* supported.

If you think your users will be sympathetic to this approach then I
guess...  obviously, it does have the potential to go rather badly wrong
especially if there are some drivers without regulator support out
there.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-07-14 18:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-07-13 14:09 [PATCH v2 1/2] regulator: add support for regulators on the ab8500 MFD Sundar Iyer
2010-07-13 14:09 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] ux500: add ab8500-regulators machine specific data Sundar Iyer
2010-07-13 14:18   ` Mark Brown
2010-07-13 14:41     ` Sundar R IYER
2010-07-13 14:56       ` Mark Brown
2010-07-13 15:08         ` Sundar R IYER
2010-07-13 15:09           ` Mark Brown
2010-07-13 16:13             ` Sundar R IYER
2010-07-13 20:38               ` Mark Brown
2010-07-14 14:50                 ` Sundar R IYER
2010-07-14 14:57                   ` Mark Brown
2010-07-14 15:36                     ` Sundar R IYER
2010-07-14 15:47                       ` Mark Brown
2010-07-14 16:09                         ` Sundar R IYER
2010-07-14 16:20                           ` Mark Brown
2010-07-14 16:47                             ` Sundar R IYER
2010-07-14 17:03                               ` Mark Brown
2010-07-14 17:36                                 ` Sundar R IYER
2010-07-14 18:42                                   ` Mark Brown [this message]
2010-07-14 22:51                                     ` Linus Walleij
2010-07-15  9:09                                       ` Mark Brown
2010-07-13 14:17 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] regulator: add support for regulators on the ab8500 MFD Mark Brown
2010-07-13 14:34   ` Sundar R IYER
2010-07-13 14:57     ` Mark Brown
2010-07-13 14:58     ` Mark Brown
2010-07-13 15:11       ` Sundar R IYER
2010-07-13 15:12         ` Mark Brown
2010-07-13 16:18           ` Sundar R IYER
2010-07-13 20:40             ` Mark Brown
2010-07-15 10:29               ` Liam Girdwood
2010-10-27 16:25 ` Thiago Farina
2010-10-27 17:33   ` Mark Brown
2010-10-27 17:42     ` Thiago Farina
2010-10-27 17:56       ` Mark Brown

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