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From: Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com>
To: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>
Cc: Phil Pishioneri <pgp@psu.edu>,
	Volker.Lendecke@SerNet.DE, Jeremy Allison <jra@samba.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@medozas.de>,
	linux-cifs@vger.kernel.org, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org,
	samba-technical@lists.samba.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/18] xstat: Add a pair of system calls to make extended file stats available [ver #6]
Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2010 09:17:32 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100801091732.25023580@corrin.poochiereds.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1280513506.12852.22.camel@heimdal.trondhjem.org>

On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:11:46 -0400
Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no> wrote:

> On Fri, 2010-07-30 at 13:55 -0400, Phil Pishioneri wrote:
> > On 7/22/10 2:59 PM, Trond Myklebust wrote:
> > > The fact remains that most of us would be hard pressed to name an
> > > application
> > 
> > Microsoft Office?
> > 
> > > that requires you to share the same dataset to both
> > > Windows/CIFS and posix NFS clients.
> > 
> > NFS client: Mac OS X (NFSv3, since v4 on it is still alpha *cough*).
> > 
> > > tends to discourage mixing the two environments.
> > 
> > Or is "discourage" not strong enough term to describe that we shouldn't 
> > be doing this?
> > 
> > -Phil
> 
> Your Mac has a perfectly functional CIFS client, as do your Linux boxes.
> They both interoperate just fine with Samba, and would presumably
> continue to do so if someone were to decide to reuse the ctime field on
> your Samba box as storage for a create time.
> 
>   Trond
> 

It's not so much particular applications that require access to the
same data via NFS and CIFS. There is, however a common desire to share
the same data to different client OS'.

All of the unix CIFS clients that I know of (including Linux's) trail
NFS in several areas. For instance, if you need to have the same data
accessible by multiple users using their own credentials then you need
multiple mounts.

-- 
Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com>

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-08-01 13:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 132+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-07-15  2:17 [PATCH 00/18] Extended file stat functions " David Howells
2010-07-15  2:17 ` [PATCH 01/18] Mark arguments to certain syscalls as being const " David Howells
2010-07-15  2:17 ` [PATCH 02/18] xstat: Add a pair of system calls to make extended file stats available " David Howells
2010-07-15 20:35   ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-07-15 21:53   ` David Howells
2010-07-16  6:22     ` Mark Harris
2010-07-16 10:24     ` David Howells
2010-07-16 11:02       ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-07-16 12:38       ` David Howells
2010-07-16 13:32         ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-07-17  5:51         ` Mark Harris
2010-07-17  9:00           ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-07-17  9:49         ` David Howells
2010-07-16 10:46     ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-07-16 15:10     ` David Howells
2010-07-18  8:48   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-07-22 10:52     ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-07-22 12:25     ` David Howells
2010-07-19 14:05   ` David Howells
2010-07-19 15:17   ` Linus Torvalds
2010-07-19 16:15   ` David Howells
2010-07-19 16:51     ` Linus Torvalds
2010-07-19 17:26     ` David Howells
2010-07-19 17:46       ` Linus Torvalds
2010-07-20  8:28         ` Andreas Dilger
2010-07-22 10:35   ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-07-22 12:14   ` David Howells
2010-07-22 12:17     ` Volker Lendecke
2010-07-22 13:05       ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-07-22 15:14       ` Linus Torvalds
2010-07-22 15:36         ` Volker Lendecke
2010-07-22 15:47           ` Linus Torvalds
2010-07-22 16:06             ` Greg Freemyer
2010-07-22 16:07               ` Greg Freemyer
2010-07-22 16:25             ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-07-22 16:27             ` Jeremy Allison
2010-07-22 16:40               ` Linus Torvalds
2010-07-22 16:58                 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-07-22 18:02                   ` Jeremy Allison
2010-07-22 18:04                     ` Volker Lendecke
2010-07-22 18:07                       ` Jeremy Allison
2010-07-22 18:59                       ` Trond Myklebust
2010-07-30 17:55                         ` Phil Pishioneri
2010-07-30 18:11                           ` Trond Myklebust
2010-07-30 18:19                             ` Phil Pishioneri
2010-07-31 18:41                             ` Andreas Dilger
2010-07-31 18:48                               ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-07-31 19:03                               ` Trond Myklebust
2010-07-31 21:20                                 ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-08-01 13:17                             ` Jeff Layton [this message]
2010-07-22 18:05                     ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-07-22 18:07                       ` Jeremy Allison
2010-07-22 19:18                     ` John Stoffel
2010-07-22 17:03                 ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-07-22 17:16                   ` Trond Myklebust
2010-07-22 17:36                     ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-07-22 17:24                   ` Linus Torvalds
2010-07-22 18:15                     ` Jeremy Allison
2010-07-22 18:21                     ` Benny Halevy
2010-07-22 18:45                       ` Greg Freemyer
2010-07-22 19:53                         ` Benny Halevy
2010-07-22 18:41                     ` Greg Freemyer
2010-07-28  1:15                     ` Neil Brown
2010-07-28 17:28                     ` David Howells
2010-07-28 23:04                       ` Neil Brown
2010-07-30 18:38                         ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-01 13:40                         ` Jeff Layton
2010-08-02 14:09                           ` Greg Freemyer
2010-08-02 14:42                             ` Jeff Layton
2010-07-29 16:15                       ` David Howells
2010-08-03  1:13                         ` Neil Brown
2010-07-22 17:12                 ` Jim Rees
2010-07-22 17:32                   ` Linus Torvalds
2010-07-23  1:03                 ` tridge
2010-07-23  1:21                   ` Ted Ts'o
2010-07-23  2:12                     ` tridge
2010-07-23  9:14                     ` Björn Jacke
2010-07-30 21:22                 ` utz lehmann
2010-07-31  8:08                   ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-07-31 14:43                     ` utz lehmann
2010-08-01 13:25                   ` Jeff Layton
2010-08-05 23:52                     ` Jeremy Allison
2010-08-06  3:38                       ` Neil Brown
2010-08-06  3:55                         ` Steve French
2010-08-06 11:18                           ` Jeff Layton
2010-08-06 23:30                           ` Neil Brown
2010-08-06 23:58                             ` Steve French
2010-08-07  0:29                               ` Neil Brown
2010-08-07  2:42                                 ` Steve French
2010-08-07  2:54                                   ` Steve French
2010-08-07  3:32                                     ` Neil Brown
2010-08-07 10:34                                       ` Jeff Layton
2010-08-07 11:04                                         ` Neil Brown
2010-08-08 12:12                         ` Jeremy Allison
2010-08-08 12:53                           ` Jeff Layton
2010-08-08 13:05                             ` Jeremy Allison
2010-08-13 12:54                               ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-13 17:54                                 ` Jeremy Allison
2010-08-13 18:09                                   ` Steve French
2010-08-13 19:06                                   ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-08-13 19:19                                     ` Jeremy Allison
2010-08-16 18:04                                       ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-16 18:08                                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-16 19:07                                     ` Jeremy Allison
2010-08-08 23:07                           ` Neil Brown
2010-07-22 15:46         ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-07-22 16:06         ` David Howells
     [not found]       ` <AANLkTikBCXK6uEw <AANLkTimdFCGSKLn7aGMpBMIauHTsHY7hpAAmpo6uTcnD@mail.gmail.com>
2010-07-31 16:53         ` David Howells
2010-07-31 18:05           ` utz lehmann
2010-07-31 19:26           ` David Howells
2010-07-15  2:17 ` [PATCH 03/18] AFS: Use i_generation not i_version for the vnode uniquifier " David Howells
2010-07-15  2:17 ` [PATCH 04/18] xstat: AFS: Return extended attributes " David Howells
2010-07-15  2:17 ` [PATCH 05/18] xstat: eCryptFS: " David Howells
2010-07-15  2:17 ` [PATCH 06/18] xstat: Ext4: " David Howells
2010-07-15  2:17 ` [PATCH 07/18] xstat: NFS: " David Howells
2010-07-15  2:17 ` [PATCH 08/18] xstat: CIFS: " David Howells
2010-07-15  2:17 ` [PATCH 09/18] xstat: Make special system filesystems return FS_SPECIAL_FL " David Howells
2010-07-18  8:49   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-07-19 14:09   ` David Howells
2010-07-27 13:41   ` David Howells
2010-07-15  2:17 ` [PATCH 10/18] xstat: Make network filesystems return FS_REMOTE_FL " David Howells
2010-07-15  2:17 ` [PATCH 11/18] xstat: Make automounter filesystems return FS_AUTOMOUNT_FL " David Howells
2010-07-15  2:17 ` [PATCH 12/18] xstat: Add a dentry op to handle automounting rather than abusing follow_link() " David Howells
2010-07-18  8:50   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-07-19 14:10   ` David Howells
2010-07-15  2:17 ` [PATCH 13/18] xstat: AFS: Use d_automount() " David Howells
2010-07-15  2:17 ` [PATCH 14/18] xstat: NFS: " David Howells
2010-07-15  2:17 ` [PATCH 15/18] xstat: CIFS: " David Howells
2010-07-15  2:17 ` [PATCH 16/18] xstat: Remove the automount through follow_link() kludge code from pathwalk " David Howells
2010-07-15  2:17 ` [PATCH 17/18] xstat: Add an AT_NO_AUTOMOUNT flag to suppress terminal automount " David Howells
2010-07-15  2:17 ` [PATCH 18/18] xstat: Provide a mechanism to gather extra results for [f]xstat() " David Howells
2010-07-18  8:51   ` Christoph Hellwig

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