From: Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Michael Holzheu <holzheu@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Shailabh Nagar <nagar1234@in.ibm.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Venkatesh Pallipadi <venki@google.com>,
Suresh Siddha <suresh.b.siddha@intel.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
John stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 00/10] taskstats: Enhancements for precise accounting
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 14:46:48 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100924091648.GQ3952@balbir.in.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1285249681.1837.28.camel@holzheu-laptop>
* Michael Holzheu <holzheu@linux.vnet.ibm.com> [2010-09-23 15:48:01]:
> Currently tools like "top" gather the task information by reading procfs
> files. This has several disadvantages:
>
> * It is very CPU intensive, because a lot of system calls (readdir, open,
> read, close) are necessary.
> * No real task snapshot can be provided, because while the procfs files are
> read the system continues running.
> * The procfs times granularity is restricted to jiffies.
>
> In parallel to procfs there exists the taskstats binary interface that uses
> netlink sockets as transport mechanism to deliver task information to
> user space. There exists a taskstats command "TASKSTATS_CMD_ATTR_PID"
> to get task information for a given PID. This command can already be used for
> tools like top, but has also several disadvantages:
>
> * You first have to find out which PIDs are available in the system. Currently
> we have to use procfs again to do this.
> * For each task two system calls have to be issued (First send the command and
> then receive the reply).
> * No snapshot mechanism is available.
>
> GOALS OF THIS PATCH SET
> -----------------------
> The intention of this patch set is to provide better support for tools like
> top. The goal is to:
>
> * provide a task snapshot mechanism where we can get a consistent view of
> all running tasks.
> * provide a transport mechanism that does not require a lot of system calls
> and that allows implementing low CPU overhead task monitoring.
> * provide microsecond CPU time granularity.
>
Looks like a good set of goals
> FIRST RESULTS
> -------------
> Together with this kernel patch set also user space code for a new top
> utility (ptop) is provided that exploits the new kernel infrastructure. See
> patch 10 for more details.
>
> TEST1: System with many sleeping tasks
>
> for ((i=0; i < 1000; i++))
> do
> sleep 1000000 &
> done
>
> # ptop_new_proc
>
> VVVV
> pid user sys ste total Name
> (#) (%) (%) (%) (%) (str)
> 541 0.37 2.39 0.10 2.87 top
> 3743 0.03 0.05 0.00 0.07 ptop_new_proc
> ^^^^
>
> Compared to the old top command that has to scan more than 1000 proc
> directories the new ptop consumes much less CPU time (0.05% system time
> on my s390 system).a
This is very nice!
>
> TEST2: Show snapshot consistency with system that is 100% busy
>
> System with 3 CPUs:
>
> for ((i=0; i < $(cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep "^processor" | wc -l); i++))
> do
> ./loop &
> done
>
> # ptop_snap_proc
>
> VVVV VVV VVV VVVVV
> pid user sys ste cuser csys cste delay total Elap+ Name
> (#) (%) (%) (%) (%) (%) (%) (%) (%) (hm) (str)
> 23891 99.84 0.06 0.09 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.01 99.99 0:00 loop
> 23881 99.66 0.06 0.09 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.20 99.81 0:00 loop
> 23886 99.65 0.06 0.09 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.20 99.80 0:00 loop
> 2413 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.01 4:17 sshd
> ...
> V:V:S 299.36 0.36 0.27 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.40 300.00 4:22
> ^^^^^^
>
> With the snapshot mechanism the sum of all tasks CPU times (user + system +
> steal) will be exactly 300.00% CPU time with this testcase. Using
> ptop_snap_proc (see patch 10) this works fine on s390.
>
> PATCHSET OVERVIEW
> -----------------
> The code is not final and still has a few TODOs. But it is good enough for a
> first round of review. The following kernel patches are provided:
>
> [01] Prepare-0: Use real microsecond granularity for taskstats CPU times.
> [02] Prepare-1: Restructure taskstats.c in order to be able to add new commands
> more easily.
> [03] Prepare-2: Separate the finding of a task_struct by PID or TGID from
> filling the taskstats.
> [04] Add new command "TASKSTATS_CMD_ATTR_PIDS" to get a snapshot of multiple
> tasks.
> [05] Add procfs interface for taskstats commands. This allows to get a complete
> and consistent snapshot with all tasks using two system calls (ioctl and
> read). Transferring a snapshot of all running tasks is not possible using
> the existing netlink interface, because there we have the socket buffer
> size as restricting factor.
> [06] Add TGID to taskstats.
> [07] Add steal time per task accounting.
> [08] Add cumulative CPU time (user, system and steal) to taskstats.
> [09] Fix exit CPU time accounting.
I'll review the patches, in more depth
>
> [10] Besides of the kernel patches also user space code is provided that
> exploits the new kernel infrastructure. The user space code provides the
> following:
> 1. A proposal for a taskstats user space library:
> 1.1 Based on netlink (requires libnl-devel-1.1-5)
> 2.1 Based on the new /proc/taskstats interface (see [05])
I have some code for libnl based exploitation lying around, not sure
if you've seen the same.
> 2. A proposal for a task snapshot library based on taskstats library (1.1)
> 3. A new tool "ptop" (precise top) that uses the libraries
>
>
--
Three Cheers,
Balbir
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-09-24 9:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-09-23 13:48 Michael Holzheu
2010-09-23 14:00 ` [RFC][PATCH 01/10] taskstats: Use real microsecond granularity for CPU times Michael Holzheu
2010-10-07 5:08 ` Balbir Singh
2010-10-08 15:08 ` Michael Holzheu
2010-10-08 16:39 ` Balbir Singh
2010-09-23 14:01 ` [RFC][PATCH 02/10] taskstats: Separate taskstats commands Michael Holzheu
2010-09-27 9:32 ` Balbir Singh
2010-10-11 7:40 ` Balbir Singh
2010-09-23 14:01 ` [RFC][PATCH 03/10] taskstats: Split fill_pid function Michael Holzheu
2010-09-23 17:33 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-09-27 9:33 ` Balbir Singh
2010-10-11 8:31 ` Balbir Singh
2010-09-23 14:01 ` [RFC][PATCH 04/10] taskstats: Add new taskstats command TASKSTATS_CMD_ATTR_PIDS Michael Holzheu
2010-09-23 14:01 ` [RFC][PATCH 05/10] taskstats: Add "/proc/taskstats" Michael Holzheu
2010-09-23 14:01 ` [RFC][PATCH 06/10] taskstats: Add thread group ID to taskstats structure Michael Holzheu
2010-09-23 14:01 ` [RFC][PATCH 07/10] taskstats: Add per task steal time accounting Michael Holzheu
2010-09-23 14:02 ` [RFC][PATCH 08/10] taskstats: Add cumulative CPU time (user, system and steal) Michael Holzheu
2010-09-23 14:02 ` [RFC][PATCH 09/10] taskstats: Fix exit CPU time accounting Michael Holzheu
2010-09-23 17:10 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-09-24 12:18 ` Michael Holzheu
2010-09-26 18:11 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-09-27 13:23 ` Michael Holzheu
2010-09-27 13:42 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2010-09-27 16:51 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-09-28 7:09 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2010-09-29 19:19 ` Roland McGrath
2010-09-30 13:47 ` Michael Holzheu
2010-10-05 8:57 ` Roland McGrath
2010-10-06 9:29 ` Michael Holzheu
2010-10-06 15:26 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-10-07 15:06 ` Michael Holzheu
2010-10-11 12:37 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-10-12 13:10 ` Michael Holzheu
2010-10-14 13:47 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-10-15 14:34 ` Michael Holzheu
2010-10-19 14:17 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-10-22 16:53 ` Michael Holzheu
2010-09-28 8:36 ` Balbir Singh
2010-09-28 9:08 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2010-09-28 9:23 ` Balbir Singh
2010-09-28 10:36 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2010-09-28 10:39 ` Balbir Singh
2010-09-28 8:21 ` Balbir Singh
2010-09-28 16:50 ` Michael Holzheu
2010-09-23 14:04 ` [RFC][PATCH 10/10] taststats: User space with ptop tool Michael Holzheu
2010-09-23 20:11 ` [RFC][PATCH 00/10] taskstats: Enhancements for precise accounting Andrew Morton
2010-09-23 22:11 ` Matt Helsley
2010-09-24 12:39 ` Michael Holzheu
2010-09-25 18:19 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2010-09-24 9:10 ` Michael Holzheu
2010-09-24 18:50 ` Andrew Morton
2010-09-27 9:18 ` Michael Holzheu
2010-09-27 20:02 ` Andrew Morton
2010-09-28 8:17 ` Balbir Singh
2010-09-27 10:49 ` Balbir Singh
2010-09-24 9:16 ` Balbir Singh [this message]
2010-09-30 8:38 ` Andi Kleen
2010-09-30 13:56 ` Michael Holzheu
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