From: Tvrtko Ursulin <tvrtko.ursulin@sophos.com>
To: John Stoffel <john@stoffel.org>
Cc: Eric Paris <eparis@redhat.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"agruen@suse.de" <agruen@suse.de>
Subject: Re: Linux 2.6.36-rc7
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 17:17:25 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <201010081717.25940.tvrtko.ursulin@sophos.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <19631.15310.568446.991954@quad.stoffel.home>
On Friday 08 Oct 2010 16:42:06 John Stoffel wrote:
> >>>>> "Eric" == Eric Paris <eparis@redhat.com> writes:
> Eric> I will tell you that the way I envision it working (and being
> Eric> backwards compatible) is that priority 0 is the last thing to be
> Eric> serviced. If 2 things register at the same priority the order
> Eric> between them getting events is unpredictable. So when an HSM
> Eric> uses the interface it would use the highest priority. An AV
> Eric> vendor might use (highest priority / 2) while normal inotify
> Eric> like listeners would all be happy using priority 0.
>
> Ugh, I'd prefer that priority 0 is first (highest), but I can see how
> that would make ABI problems, assuming we don't punt on releasing the
> ABI now.
>
> So if the order is undefined now, that's not good. Well... maybe it's
> acceptable, but I can see all kinds of problems cropping up.
> Hopefully they're processed in order of notifier creation instead. So
> if I insert a notifier, anyone who inserts a notifier after me gets
> serviced after my notifier gets run. That would seem to be the
> logical and sane semantics to use here.
>
> Again, I'm really approaching this as a SysAdmin who'd love to use
> this in an HSM environment, so ordering is a *key* requirement.
Ordering by time of registration? I thought of that but it falls flat once any
service needs to restart or be restarted.
Priority is also not that great concept. I may have proposed classes or
something similar at some point, don't remember any more. It would be
equivalent to having allocated priority ranges, like:
>1000 - pre-content
>=100 - access-control
<100 - content
Doesn't really solve ordering inside groups so maybe we do not need priorities
at all just these three classes?
Tvrtko
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-10-08 16:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-10-06 21:45 Linus Torvalds
2010-10-07 0:49 ` Stephen Rothwell
2010-10-08 15:05 ` James Bottomley
2010-10-07 16:10 ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2010-10-07 17:15 ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2010-10-07 17:33 ` Eric Paris
2010-10-07 18:07 ` Alan Cox
2010-10-07 17:49 ` Eric Paris
2010-10-08 12:06 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2010-10-08 16:33 ` David Daney
2010-10-08 21:50 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2010-10-08 21:59 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-10-11 22:13 ` fanotify: disable fanotify syscalls Eric Paris
2010-10-08 16:38 ` Linux 2.6.36-rc7 Eric Paris
2010-10-08 21:45 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2010-10-07 20:55 ` John Stoffel
2010-10-07 21:24 ` Eric Paris
2010-10-08 15:42 ` John Stoffel
2010-10-08 16:17 ` Tvrtko Ursulin [this message]
2010-10-08 16:41 ` Eric Paris
2010-10-18 11:01 ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2010-10-08 16:54 ` John Stoffel
2010-10-08 21:03 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2010-10-09 0:46 ` John Stoffel
2010-10-07 19:28 ` Tejun Heo
2010-10-07 20:13 ` [dm-devel] " Milan Broz
2010-10-08 17:02 ` Tejun Heo
2010-10-10 11:56 ` Torsten Kaiser
2010-10-11 10:09 ` [PATCH wq#for-next] workqueue: fix HIGHPRI handling in keep_working() Tejun Heo
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